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re: Liz Cheney and Ron spout the same talking points on Jan 6th
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:06 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:06 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Only sycophants like yourself have a problem with what he said.
Did you see TMcgin accuse Leto of being a trump cultist??
these DeSantis threads are wild. 
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:08 pm to BBONDS25
Bonds, you should watch what Desantis just said about it on Tapper. He knocked it put the park
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:12 pm to BBONDS25
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Now you tell me, why did Trump wait over an hour and a half from when it became a riot to when he told people to go home? After all, he had people from both parties begging him to tell his people to disperse - but he waited. Why?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:13 pm to Jjdoc
Unpopular opinion: J6 was awesome
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:14 pm to Fun Bunch
I mean like i said in my last post, there is more context there.
But to say he was in WH doing nothing is just not factual. Which I take issue with.
You can critique, thats fine. I dont really know what he was supposed to do. Its not like the Secret Service would allow him to go over there and speak directly to a mob. I think its bullshite Trump tries to claim he ordered up NG but was rejected by Nancy too.
Im not defending Trump. But Desantis clearly said something that isn’t factual. And per my first post in response here, he has plenty of angles to attack Trump with.
But to say he was in WH doing nothing is just not factual. Which I take issue with.
You can critique, thats fine. I dont really know what he was supposed to do. Its not like the Secret Service would allow him to go over there and speak directly to a mob. I think its bullshite Trump tries to claim he ordered up NG but was rejected by Nancy too.
Im not defending Trump. But Desantis clearly said something that isn’t factual. And per my first post in response here, he has plenty of angles to attack Trump with.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:14 pm to BBONDS25
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Did you see TMcgin accuse Leto of being a trump cultist?? these DeSantis threads are wild.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:16 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Now you tell me, why did Trump wait over an hour and a half from when it became a riot to when he told people to go home? After all, he had people from both parties begging him to tell his people to disperse - but he waited. Why?
No clue. He probably had a lot of info coming in and a lot of advisors talking to him. What is the point? What should he have done? What consequences do you think he should face for not doing what you suggest?
Also, were you ignorant to the content of his speech where he asked for peaceful protest or were you being intentionally deceptive.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:17 pm to Fun Bunch
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Bonds, you should watch what Desantis just said about it on Tapper. He knocked it put the park
I’ll check it out.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:18 pm to BBONDS25
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what should he have done?
I'm pretty sure based on testimony Trump never called anyone from the DoD, DOJ, Capitol Police, Secret Service...
He did have some phone calls with lawyers and lawmakers.
So I would start there for things he should have done. Try to coordinate with agencies that fall under the Executive branch to help secure the Capitol building.
If we're being technical, Trump did tweet, so he did do something. But realistically given all of the options at his disposal, he didn't really do anything.
If you disagree that's fine but I don't think it's a lie or an unreasonable position to think that Trump didn't really do anything once the riot started.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:19 pm to Jon Ham
How do tell the FEDS to stop their manufactured insurrection?
How do you tell the FEDS not to order the Capitol Police to take the magnetic locks off od the doors?
How do you tell the FEDS not to order the Capitol Police to take the magnetic locks off od the doors?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:19 pm to Jjdoc
Right on brand for Swampball.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:21 pm to LSUnation78
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But to say he was in WH doing nothing is just not factual
What was he doing?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:23 pm to Fun Bunch
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What was he doing?
Probably working optics and try and determine who was running the insurrection.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:26 pm to riccoar
Do you consider that “doing something” in the context Ron Desantis is referring to?
Even if so, you have to admit this is incredibly mild criticism.
I invite you to watch he said on Tapper.
Even if so, you have to admit this is incredibly mild criticism.
I invite you to watch he said on Tapper.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:32 pm to Jjdoc
Iirc some started while he was speaking, if anyone that thinks the people in the middle of doing what they were doing would have actually heard him telling them to stop is a fool. Trump would have had to gone into the crowd with a bullhorn to MAYBE get the momentum stopped.
The issue is not having his Guard request approved. Whomever did that is to blame.
The issue is not having his Guard request approved. Whomever did that is to blame.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:38 pm to BBONDS25
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No clue. He probably had a lot of info coming in and a lot of advisors talking to him. What is the point?
He probably could've put an end to it 2 hours earlier.
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Also, were you ignorant to the content of his speech where he asked for peaceful protest
No.
Here is where he referred to peaceful protest in his speech:
Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.
I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
He mentioned "fight" 20 times in that same speech, including:
And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.
Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.
And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.
So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.
The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.
But the WHOLE point is that he could have stopped the riot, and he didn't. He could have gone to the Capitol with the crowd he had just got all worked up, and protested peacefully.
But do you know what he didn't do after he said to the crowd, "we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol"?
Walk down Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol - because he was scared to.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 3:55 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
keep lying he asked for more security your people turned him down stop repeating cnn talking points get a brain
Posted on 7/18/23 at 4:00 pm to tigersmanager
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keep lying
What did I lie about?
It was Trump who lied when he said, "...we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue...And we're going to the Capitol"
Why didn't he go to the Capitol like he said he was?
He could've kept it from becoming a riot, but he didn't.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 4:10 pm to tigersmanager
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keep lying he asked for more security your people turned him down stop repeating cnn talking points get a brain
The Uniparty played Trump's arse so hard on Covid, the rigged election, then the "insurrection". Dude got worked.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 4:22 pm to Jjdoc
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When you have 75 million followers.. yes
I am one of the 75 million voters. But a voter is not a follower. You are a follower.
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