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re: Live - COVID Task Force Before The Senate

Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:35 am to
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Oh.... Lookie here... TigerinDC is channeling his inner BamaATL.
Two low watt bulbs.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:36 am to
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All Covid related treatment is covered by the govt..


This is demonstrably false:

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“For a Covid-19 patient whose insurer is not covering cost-sharing the way some are, they might be somewhat worse off than an uninsured person who would be getting help from the government,” said Paul Ginsburg, director of the USC-Brookings Schaeffer Initiative for Health Policy.

There are roughly 28 million uninsured individuals in the U.S., according to Kaiser. Of those, an estimated 670,000 to about 2 million will require hospitalization for coronavirus.


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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74038 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:39 am to
Sorry dude, but I find it extremely dubious that differences in health insurance rates explain the difference in covid19 data between South Korea and the US. If that was the decisive issue, explain why European nations look far more like the US than Korea re the virus?

Especially when you consider this thing is asymptomatic for 30-50% of all cases and you begin spreading it before you even have symptoms if you are symptomatic


It doesn’t even make sense on its face

Why would someone with health insurance stay home, and someone without it go out and spread it?
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:39 am to
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Apparently, health insurance is like a shield that wraps around your body, preventing you from getting hurt or sick or catching any sort of illness?


Yeah, none of the insurance companies offer PREVENTATIVE health care.

Y'all gripe about Americans having so many co-morbidities but then brush aside what would minimize them.
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 11:40 am
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3867 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:41 am to
Tim Scott - impressive.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:42 am to
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If that was the decisive issue, explain why European nations look far more like the US than Korea re the virus?


Those countries have a higher elderly population than us.

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Why would someone with health insurance stay home, and someone without it go out and spread it?



Huh? If you have health insurance you are more likely to feel comfortable going back to work than those without it.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24916 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:42 am to
Tim Scott, logical and measured. I like what I see! Is he a good senator?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:42 am to
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There are roughly 28 million uninsured individuals in the U.S., according to Kaiser. Of those, an estimated 670,000 to about 2 million will require hospitalization for coronavirus.


Ummmmm NO

The rate is currently at 50.3 ppl per 100k
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:43 am to
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Sorry dude, but I find it extremely dubious that differences in health insurance rates explain the difference in covid19 data between South Korea and the US.


It's got absolutely nothing to do with it.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84834 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:43 am to
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This is demonstrably false:


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At the same time, even if all of these steps were taken, some people would still fall through the cracks and remain uninsured. A last-resort mechanism like the PHE Fund to cover COVID-19 hospital bills for these patients is an appropriate and important step to avert hardship, but this fund should not be portrayed as a substitute for comprehensive coverage.


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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74038 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:43 am to
If health insurance prevents comorbidities, why have diabetes, heart disease, and obesity exploded since the 1960s?
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24916 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:44 am to
Senator Scott was impressive.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:46 am to
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If health insurance prevents comorbidities, why have diabetes, heart disease, and obesity exploded since the 1960s?



That's a strawman. I never said prevents comorbidities. It's an important mitigation tool.

Also, not all health insurance met minimum standards before Obamacare so there's that too.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74038 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:48 am to
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Those countries have a higher elderly population than us.



Barely.

Our median age is 40

In Europe as a whole, median age is 42


South Korea median age is 41
Posted by teebro
laf
Member since Jul 2009
681 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:49 am to
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Tim Scott - impressive.


He could easily go big if he's half a sharp as he is showing here.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:50 am to
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Also, not all health insurance met minimum standards before Obamacare so there's that too.



I'm beginning to think that BamaATL and tigerinDC are one in the same.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
41841 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:50 am to
Pierre Delecto
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:50 am to
Romney trying to dunk on the admiral for his testing claim yesterday.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90133 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:50 am to
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Romney trying to dunk on the admiral for his testing claim yesterday.
You should know about getting dunked on.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24916 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:50 am to
I though they rotated between Republican and Democrats. Why did the Dems get two in a row?
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