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re: Little Miss Tippie Top Ocasio-Cortez wants to raise taxes to 70% to pay for some socialist

Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:08 am to
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Well, there is a marked increase in single parent households and out of wedlock childbirth in minorities from the 60s onwards.

Would you say that whatever rule change happened to cause this was a “good rule change” or a “bad rule change”


It was a good rule change. It ended poverty.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:10 am to
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Just the one's that I support


FIFY


Like taking other people money.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95675 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:11 am to
...and then to 90%, then to 95%.

Then they will be shocked when no one does anything past a certain point because, what's the use?

Or, rich people vote with their feet and move their money out of your reach.

I've seen them do it.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110973 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:13 am to
What does her ideal federal government NEED more money for?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:14 am to
It is never just the top earners. It would funnel down and rest firmly on the middle class as another entitlement cannot be sustained based on skewed projections by the crazy left.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:16 am to
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wants to raise taxes to 70%


This is why I own guns. The government will kill me and take it before I give them more of my hard earned money willfully.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138934 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:16 am to
You mean people want to keep more of their money rather than throw it into a black hole where they get no return on their money?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:17 am to
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It was a good rule change. It ended poverty


Wut
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:18 am to
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What does her ideal federal government NEED more money for?



More government.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38466 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:23 am to
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boogiewoogie1978


Pussy
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8646 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:24 am to
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...and then to 90%, then to 95%.

Then they will be shocked when no one does anything past a certain point because, what's the use?

Or, rich people vote with their feet and move their money out of your reach.

I've seen them do it.




The math is pretty straightforward on this, and the hard left will never let it slip:

- The great bulk of taxable income is still in the middle three quintiles in America

- Raising the top end rates up to confiscatory levels (say 70+% for the highest brackets) would barely put a dent in the cost of their proposed programs (Medicare for All, free university, etc.)

- To realistically fund these initiatives, you'd have to have a ~20% or so absolute jump in effective rates for the middle classes on top of a VAT (probably 5 - 15%)

Saying anything else is just lying. "Tax the rich!" only gets you a small part of the way there.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138934 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:36 am to
I think I remember seeing something like you could tax the 1% (maybe 5%, can't remember) at 100% of their income and it would only fund Medicare for all for 3 years before running out of money. That doesn't include all the other free shite they want too.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20076 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:37 am to
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Those same tax rates were in effect well into the late 1970's.


False
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20076 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:39 am to
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Well, there is a marked increase in single parent households and out of wedlock childbirth in minorities from the 60s onwards.

Would you say that whatever rule change happened to cause this was a “good rule change” or a “bad rule change”

Inquiring minds would like to know

This is a subject for a different thread. We are talking about taxes. Stop trying to redirect. I should have never enabled you with your first redirect question.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36337 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:40 am to
AC handled that well considering she said she wanted to take most of his money.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:45 am to
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What does her ideal federal government NEED more money for?


Because she's a legit socialist and wants all money moved to the public sector
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:48 am to
He's also a Vanderbilt heir.

Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44448 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:50 am to
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Or, rich people vote with their feet and move their money out of your reach.



Yet we have people on this board that clamor daily for a border wall. Again, if it is effective at keeping people out, then logically it would be effective at keeping people in.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108995 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:52 am to
Yeah, that was kind of lame bro...
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:52 am to
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Yet we have people on this board that clamor daily for a border wall. Again, if it is effective at keeping people out, then logically it would be effective at keeping people in.




Dumb argument. Not to mention there's no wall on the Canadian border.
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