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re: Listen to what Independents like me are saying, and you'll understand American politics

Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:13 pm to
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Uh, no. The points is that "lawful assembly" doesn't serve as a justification for violence, which is still illegal even if you have a permit for your march, and even if the counterprotesters who show up to that march don't.

Weird that I have to explain this to you.


See, here's the difference between me and people like you. You think it's perfectly fine that ANTIFA showed up and started shite with a group, despite them following all protocols to be there and their 1st amendment right to speak, because you don't like them.

Whereas I would place all, ALL blame with a group that showed up to start shite with ANTIFA if they were demonstrating and had the permits to do so, even though I find them utterly fricking disgusting.

Because unlike you and your ilk, I'm not a hyperpartisan hypocritical jackass.

This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 7:14 pm
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2827 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:14 pm to
You don't get to duck questions you don't want to answer and then start dishing them out.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:15 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 3:36 am
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:15 pm to
Tigerdroppings poliboard has, in the span of the 15 years since I've been posting here, gone from a place that espoused ideals of individual responsibility, limited government, and free markets to a place that only cares about "beating" liberals, whether literally or figuratively. The celebration of CRIMINAL STREET THUGS like RAM is only an indicator of this trend.

SAD TO SEE THIS HAPPEN.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:16 pm to
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Uh, no. The points is that "lawful assembly" doesn't serve as a justification for violence, which is still illegal even if you have a permit for your march, and even if the counterprotesters who show up to that march don't.

Weird that I have to explain this to you.

It's not justified because they have a permit. It's justified because they're assaulted for it.
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counterprotesters



It's painfully obvious where your loyalties lie.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:16 pm to
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He supports and encourages violence and censorship and character assassination against those that have opposing viewpoints to his own. Just like every single person on the left.



Says the person who LITERALLY said Heather Heyer had it coming. Like -- in this very thread you said that. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:16 pm to
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Tigerdroppings poliboard has, in the span of the 15 years since I've been posting here, gone from a place that espoused ideals of individual responsibility, limited government, and free markets to a place that only cares about "beating" liberals, whether literally or figuratively. The celebration of CRIMINAL STREET THUGS like RAM is only an indicator of this trend.
I remember when the left actually pretended to espouse and hold dear free speech. Now you absolutely loath it.


SAD TO SEE
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27893 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:16 pm to
Conservatism is the belief that if everyone takes personal responsibility for their own lives, our society will be fine. Does that mean that we won't take care of those who can't take care of themselves? No. We can and we do, because we are compassionate.

As far as how that relates to the black condition in the inner cities, I don't know anybody who would not like to see the ghettos eradicated and all of the minorities get an education, a job, and join the middle/upper class. What we don't want is to be made to feel that it is our fault and that the solution is for white people to sacrifice what we have worked for in order to "fix" it. And by fix it, I mean dump a whole bunch of money into the ghettos - which is the liberal solution.

We need to replace the attitude that getting an education and a job is "selling out" with the attitude that the best way to get ahead is through hard work. We need to make sure they know the opportunity is there to get out of the ghetto, but nobody is going to pick them up and carry them out.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2827 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:17 pm to
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I AM A DRAMA QUEEN

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:17 pm to
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espoused ideals of individual responsibility, limited government, and free markets


It still does. Which is probably why you are so hostile to everyone here.

Because you damn sure don't care about any of the above based on your post history.

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:17 pm to
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See, here's the difference between me and people like you. You think it's perfectly fine that ANTIFA showed up and started shite with a group, despite them following all protocols to be there and their 1st amendment right to speak, because you don't like them.

Whereas I would place all, ALL blame with a group that showed up to start shite with ANTIFA if they were demonstrating and had the permits to do so, even though I find them utterly fricking disgusting.

Because unlike you and your ilk, I'm not a hyperpartisan hypocritical jackass.


I condemn violence on both sides. Do you? If not, you're a hypocrite indeed.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6434 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:18 pm to
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I'm an Independent voter.
I am economically moderate, socially moderate overall.
I have conservative views.
I have liberal views.
I am the average American.

Economically moderate? Socially moderate? Conservative views? Liberal views? What does that all mean? This must be a tough tightrope to walk at election time. What politicians can live up to your standards? Let me answer. None.
In my experience voters like you tend to vote progressive despite claiming moderate and conservative positions.

You've made an idol of your independence and undefined yourself to the point of silliness. It's the sin of pride.

Unfortunately you may speak for more "independent" voters than the echo chamber wants to admit.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:19 pm to
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It's painfully obvious where your loyalties lie.


I am not your boogieman. I have never, nor will I ever, affiliate or participate with ANTIFA.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:19 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 12:58 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
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34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 12:58 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38344 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:20 pm to
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I condemn violence on both sides. Do you? If not, you're a hypocrite indeed.

This doesn't make any sense. Not all violence is morally equivalent.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:20 pm to
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Says the person who LITERALLY said Heather Heyer had it coming. Like -- in this very thread you said that. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
She did. Just by her being there and participating in a violent counterprotest with a violent fringe orginization like ANTIFA and BLM. Those groups are exactly as evil as the Neo nazis and the KKK. If one of the Neo Nazis has been killed there is a 100% you would shrug your shoulders and say “meh, he was a racist piece of shite that had it coming.” And I’d be saying the exact same thing. The difference between me and you is that I’m willing and able to define what is evil and wrong and fringe on the right. In your mind there is nothing that evil and wrong and fringe on the left. Which is a serious problem for you and your claims of hypocrisy
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46210 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:21 pm to
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I condemn violence on both sides. Do you? If not, you're a hypocrite indeed.



I condemn the group that shows up specifically to start violence. No matter the side.

I feel sorry for your children that you would condemn them for defending themselves from bullies.



Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:22 pm to
I think you and I could get along well and agree on many issues.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 7:22 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 12:58 pm
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