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re: List of policies/stances. Do you agree with Them?

Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:17 pm to
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6- This is highly dependant on The Constition being a living document that changes and is altered by members of congress.

no
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:28 pm to
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enduring moral order


Please give more details. Who gets to decide what is moral and what isn't? Is gambling moral? Many would say no. Should it be legal? Yes. It should also be regulated to ensure the house doesn't tip the scales too much in their favor.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:32 pm to
Moral order in this sense of traditional conservatism is that while things that are immoral may be allowed not to the extent that it creates chaos or disorder



So while gambling may be considered immoral
gambling at what level is taking a risk on the outcome of an event whether it be a coin flip or a football game at what point does that disrupt society
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:41 pm to
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at what point does that disrupt society


Who do you trust enough to make this call?
Posted by Hogbit
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:45 pm to
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The Constition being a living document

Only progs say this shite.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:47 pm to
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at what point does that disrupt society


Who do you trust enough to make this call?
when we notice
as we have
Sometimes it takes a while as it took a while for the mistake of slavery to be corrected
And sometimes it gets violent as in the case of the Civil War

Hopefully if that happens or after that happens we return to order
and then we enact changes through the political process as is happening

can it be taken too far?

yes,, that's when it ceases to be Traditional Conservatism

populism .. left or right has been a vehicle to attempt this in the past
Posted by LSUconvert
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:48 pm to
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at what point does that disrupt society


Who do you trust enough to make this call?

when we notice
as we have


I didn't ask when you make the call.

I asked WHO you trust enough to make this call? Biden? Trump? Maybe a local politician?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:50 pm to
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The Constition being a living document

Only progs say this shite.


Why I said no

but I wanted to see how long it took for someone to pick up on it congratulations
This is why I say so many on this board will call themselves conservatives don't know what Conservatism is
Posted by Hogbit
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:54 pm to
There is much duality on the PT
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 2:57 pm to
Sounds like heaven.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:09 pm to
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There is much duality on the PT


Yes, much of it is very self-unaware
by choice,, stubbornness, fear of examination,
ignorance due to fragileness of mind,, worse than stupidity,its a weakness
not of ability but of fear and laziness


I can call myself tall, but it doesn't mean I am tall
but if I'm amongst a group of pygmies Im tall
if I'm amongst a bunch of NBA players I'm short

but location doesn't change the measurement,,only the perception
on this board to a greater extent self-perception

I'm 5'"8 which tends on the shorter side of the American average of 5'9"

But I have this sense to know what tall or short are the average is and I can make an honest comparison of my height to that and say I'm not tall but nor what I call myself short but I could be called shorter than average


A lot of people on this board call themselves conservative and have no idea what conservative or conservatism is
not by definition
nor by history
nor by generally accepted qualifications

and its not up to me there are 1000s of years of history that establish the parameters



This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Figgy
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:16 pm to
Well yeah.

I'm not sure why anyone would disagree with any of that outside of maybe "enduring moral order" & "sanctity of life" (that gets tricky depending on the specific scenario).
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:18 pm to
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I'm not sure why anyone would disagree with any of that outside of maybe "enduring moral order" & "sanctity of life" (that gets tricky depending on the specific scenario).

Exactly. The debate isn't about what politicians say. It's about what they do and want to do.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:20 pm to
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at what point does that disrupt society


Who do you trust enough to make this call?

when we notice
as we have


I didn't ask when you make the call.

I asked WHO you trust enough to make this call? Biden? Trump? Maybe a local politician?




we

the American people if your too dense or obstinate to recognize the context

now, that you been shown to be the board's typical liberal pseudo eristic
Congrats for trying to make yourself seem smart to yourself
This post was edited on 1/5/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Hogbit
Benton, AR
Member since Aug 2019
3091 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:20 pm to
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Yes, much of it is very self-unaware
by choice,, stubbornness, fear of examination,
ignorance due to fragileness of mind,, worse than stupidity,its a weakness
not of ability but of fear and laziness


I can call myself tall, but it doesn't mean I am tall
but if I'm amongst a group of pygmies Im tall
if I'm amongst a bunch of NBA players I'm short

but location doesn't change the measurement,,only the perception
on this board to a greater extent self-perception

I'm 5'"8 which tends on the shorter side of the American average of 5'9"

But I have this sense to know what tall or short are the average is and I can make an honest comparison of my height to that and say I'm not tall but nor what I call myself short but I could be called shorter than average


A lot of people on this board call themselves conservative and have no idea what conservative or conservatism is
not by definition
nor by history
nor by generally accepted qualifications

and its not up to me there are 1000s of years of history that establish the parameters

Damn all that word salad, just say the PT is full of dullards, we all know it already.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:22 pm to
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just say the PT is full of dullards, we all know it already.
they don't

they think they're the god damn Oxford debate society
Posted by dalefla
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Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Everyone needs to understand the US spends more on its military budget than the next 9 nations combined......allow that to marinate.


U.S. is a global currency and the Petro dollar because we have 11 aircraft carriers saying it is.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20463 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:41 pm to
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And that means spending dramatically more on the military than every other country in the world.



Correct

And not spending money on other countries military

Eliminate nato

Man up and defend yourselves
Posted by LSUconvert
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Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 1/5/25 at 3:57 pm to
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we

the American people


The american people are governed by a republic. This means we democratically elect representatives.

Which representatives have you ever trusted enough to be able to make a call about which behaviour is immoral to the point of restricting personal liberty and which behaviour is not?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 4:37 pm to
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The american people are governed by a republic. This means we democratically elect representatives.

Which representatives have you ever trusted enough to be able to make a call about which behaviour is immoral to the point of restricting personal liberty and which behaviour is not?


that's the process of American democracy and ensured by the Constitution


why are you spelling behaviors like a European ?

Unless you're retarded European I've made it clear that like slavery which was wrong,
it's a process in which our Republic is always a work in progress
guided by the guardrails of our founding Documents and our shared history and God

Thats Traditional Conservatism

if You were as smart as you're trying to pretend to be that should be clear

but you're just trying to be a contrarian and difficult and argue minutia

so go frick yourself

or you are legit retarded
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