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re: Lisa Murkowski Suddenly Realizes She Got Played on Trump Budget Bill

Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8485 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:09 pm to
Sorry, Lisa. You got played just like you played the voters with ranked-choice voting.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19262 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:10 pm to
Poor Lisa just found out all politicians are able to lie with a straight face.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16516 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:29 pm to
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Private companies are not producing unlimited reserves in Alaska because it is cost prohibitive and there isn’t enough return to justify the investment. You are just talking shite out of your arse.
well then obviously murk should definitely be pissing away more money on green energy because its ROI is much more than O&G
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 1:49 pm to
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Alaska is a long way away from the Permian Basin.
.... and the Permian Basin is a long way from Alaska.

Estimates are that Alaska has in the neighborhood of 300 TRILLION cubic feet of untapped NatGas! Of the 300 TRILLION CuFt of suspected NatGas, 35 TRILLION cubic feet of it are proven reserves. That's roughly 2x the 19 T CuFt of Permian reserves.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18928 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 2:11 pm to
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The private companies that drill for natural gas should be all over drilling and setting up Alaska with unlimited natural gas.



They should be but then again LWNJ administrations have hamstrung such efforts. In fact they do drill for gas but much of it is being used to aid in crude oil extraction, so they know the gas is there, they can access it readily and cheaply enough to pump it right back down for oil.


quote:

You don’t know anything about what you are talking about. Private companies are not producing unlimited reserves in Alaska because it is cost prohibitive and there isn’t enough return to justify the investment. You are just talking shite out of your arse.


The irony of the retarded child attempting to lecture his betters...
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 2:17 pm to
She shouldn't even be in Congress but found a way to change election rules to guarantee her another win.

..and then turns around and screws the GOP every chance she gets. frick that bitch.
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
437 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 2:32 pm to
There’s nothing to agree or disagree with. It’s factual. Not really up for debate. Oil is subsidized. Taxes pay for all of it. The argument I think Billj is making is that what’s fair for oil should be fair for renewables. Why is it ok for tax dollars to subsidize oil and not renewables?

I’ll add this. If our species’ rate of energy consumption exceeds the earth’s rate of producing fossil fuels, won’t we have to address that? Why not now? Renewables has the math in favor of long terms solutions. Fossil fuels does not.

Agreements and disagreements can be had about how and when. But the why isn’t pretty well cemented at this point.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9787 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:31 pm to
Sucks for you, bitch. That’s what you get for being a turncoat RINO POS.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21498 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:32 pm to
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I’ll add this. If our species’ rate of energy consumption exceeds the earth’s rate of producing fossil fuels, won’t we have to address that? Why not now? Renewables has the math in favor of long terms solutions. Fossil fuels does not


Nuclear is the clear and simple answer.
This post was edited on 8/9/25 at 3:33 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74393 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:41 pm to













































Lisa
Back home.









Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
3188 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 3:43 pm to
MurCOWsky is a nepo baby……
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18006 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 4:01 pm to
She’s an idiot. Hope she is voted out of office.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16742 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 4:32 pm to
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Nuclear is the clear and simple answer.

And subsidized. At least for a few more years. Not long enough to make anyone want to do it, but it’s still there until 32 I think.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21498 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 4:55 pm to
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quote:
Nuclear is the clear and simple answer.

And subsidized. At least for a few more years. Not long enough to make anyone want to do it, but it’s still there until 32 I think


There are several folks pioneering cheaper, safer, and smaller nuclear reactors. This guy was on Shawn Ryan and is very interesting.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86266 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 4:59 pm to
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Alaska possesses substantial natural gas deposits, particularly on its North Slope, which is one of the largest in the world.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16742 posts
Posted on 8/9/25 at 5:06 pm to
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There are several folks pioneering cheaper, safer, and smaller nuclear reactors. This guy was on Shawn Ryan and is very interesting.

Been hearing it for decades. It’s not going to happen. Especially with a sunset on the nuclear tax credit that basically means any new development gets $0.

It was hard before this latest round of frickery. It’s impossible now. No ones going to invest when the rug can get pulled out from under them.
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3666 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 4:15 am to
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You’ll just pay it on the increased price of energy.


Yes but you have a choice of how much energy you consume.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18825 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 4:30 am to

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There are nuclear power plants actively under construction in the U.S. The Vogtle plant in Georgia is currently expanding with two new reactors (Units 3 and 4). Unit 3 began commercial operation in July 2023, and Unit 4 in April 2024. These are the first new nuclear reactors to come online in the U.S. in over three decades. Additionally, there are projects underway for advanced reactors, such as TerraPower's Natrium plant in Wyoming and X-energy's project in Texas, though these are in earlier stages of development.


I guess people want "the rug pulled out from underneath them"........
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18825 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 4:43 am to
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Which ones? Some aren’t “paid”, because it’s just an offset to existing tax liability. Others are “paid” via the govt for protecting supply chains globally. Others are “paid” by land owners getting their property taken at rates they can’t negotiate themselves.


Taking advantage of existing tax law is not a subsidy.

Protecting supply chains, as in the US Navy, well then I guess your nikes are subsidized as well. Or are you referring to the protection the govt provided oil companies when Venezuela seized their assets, that protection was, shall we say lacking.

When have oil companies "taken" people's property?

Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18825 posts
Posted on 8/10/25 at 4:46 am to
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And you can’t eminent domain a pipeline across Canada like they do here to keep the cost low.


The argument was the lack of energy for Alaska, and there is plenty of nat gas in Alaska, it has nothing to do with pipelines to Texas.
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