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re: Lifelong democrat speaks out against dems and Hillary

Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3954 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Judicial precedent can be ignored. See Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education, just to name one instance.


Sure, but I wouldn't hold my breath on the Court flipping Rowe v Wade since the Court has had the chance multiple times and refused to do so.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:31 pm to
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pro choice
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:33 pm to
I think at the end of 4 yrs, guys like him will be firmly behind trump over whoever the liberals try to shove in the race.
That's why republicans won't totally back trump, Hess to much to center for them. But in the end, it will position trump for these crossover votes and guarantee him another 4 yrs.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:33 pm to
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IMHO, Lifelong Democrats should take a close look at this party of theirs. Look at their tactics, look at their world view and try to see their long-term objectives.

If they take an honest and thoughtful look at that, they would realize that the Democrats are against the Judeao-Christian God, against US nationalism, against Capitalism, against the US Constitution (to the extend that it limits FedGov power) and against fair elections.

They are in favor of Totalitarian methods to seize and maintain political power in order to transform the USA into a "servant state" of the Globalists.

This "servant state" will generate wealth to be re-distributed internationally by sending it abroad or by bringing the recipients to live in the USA. This "servant state" will also maintain a strong military to fight the wars deemed necessary by the Globalists.

Once the facts are objectively and thoughtfully considered, this is the conclusion that logic dictates



This is fact and left-wing folks should take a long look at it. I doubt that it matters to most here because they're aware and ok with it.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20564 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:34 pm to
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IMHO, Lifelong Democrats should take a close look at this party of theirs. Look at their tactics, look at their world view and try to see their long-term objectives.

If they take an honest and thoughtful look at that, they would realize that the Democrats are against the Judeao-Christian God, against US nationalism, against Capitalism, against the US Constitution (to the extend that it limits FedGov power) and against fair elections.

They are in favor of Totalitarian methods to seize and maintain political power in order to transform the USA into a "servant state" of the Globalists.

This "servant state" will generate wealth to be re-distributed internationally by sending it abroad or by bringing the recipients to live in the USA. This "servant state" will also maintain a strong military to fight the wars deemed necessary by the Globalists.

Once the facts are objectively and thoughtfully considered, this is the conclusion that logic dictates
I am a lifelong Democrat, and believe me, there are plenty of us who are doing that.

I have no qualm saying that my party has lost its collective mind, at the higher levels. My political view has not changed much at all, from the time I voted for Bill Clinton... and in the meantime my party has morphed into something that I feel is now 100% antagonistic and oppositional to me.
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There is no Democrats party right now. It is a leftist party not resembling anything like the Democrats of even 15 years ago.
same exact thing can be said of the GOP

Sad state of politics ATM

Yes, that is true too. That's the reason Trump won the Republican primary... because he's not "true" Republican.

And that's the reason he won the Presidency, because he's not part of the Establishment.

Way I see it, a moderate, reasonable, compromising candidate (which would win the overall election) is at a huge disadvantage getting any early support. The special interest groups on both sides have seized control, and they dictate things.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Sure, but I wouldn't hold my breath on the Court flipping Rowe v Wade since the Court has had the chance multiple times and refused to do so.



The court had plenty of opportunities to flip Plessy v. Ferguson, too. It took them almost 60 years to do it but they eventually did it.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:42 pm to
Democrats are incapable of doing a postmortem. They are still blaming the Russians for Hillary being a horrible candidate.

And they have a major credibility problem with their own voters. No one in the right mind would trust that party to even host a primary anymore.

I started a thread about a major Hillary gaffe that is suspected of costing her a good bit of undecided voters. The usual suspects couldn't even comment in the thread. If a non-political person can't name a single thing on your candidate's platform, it's a problem. Especially when facing a media whore like Donald Trump, who is capable and willing to define his opponents in whatever way he damn well pleases.

Democrats were right in choosing Obama over Hillary in 2008. They screwed up by stomping out the populist movement via a rigged primary in 2016. They let Trump define their party for the next 8 years.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 12:46 pm
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:46 pm to
bingo i've got two both seeking STEM degree's and they make me look like a lib.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 12:48 pm to
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If the Democrats start concentrating on the concerns of middle America


Middle America = A basket of deplorables.

In the last 8 years, Democrats have been actively working against the best interest of middle America. They look out for the welfare class and the wall street class. No room in the party for the people in between.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 1:26 pm to
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bingo i've got two both seeking STEM degree's and they make me look like a lib.



Not sure if I should consider that horrifying or promising.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13184 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 1:42 pm to
Their intent on the Obama Socialist transformation. They don't care that the "ignorant/backward" half of the nation is dead set against said transformation.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25258 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 1:46 pm to
Son, if you think I'm defending Trump then keep on walking. I am no huge fan of his and that isn't likely to change.

The fact remains he won under the laws that govern our elections and he won for two very simple reasons. He campaigned hard in the middle of the country and the Democrats insisted on nominating the least likable person they could find for the Presidency. And he didn't barely win either, he won a comfortable margin in the Electoral College and that quite frankly is the only thing that counts.

Texas has been moving to the left for ages now. We've been told every year this is going to be it and every year that is not the case. Texas becoming a liberal utopia has been the dream of the Democrats for a couple of decades to the point where they've put all their eggs in the basket of that happening.

Well it hasn't happened yet and in the process they've lost the upper Midwest and the South. Sitting around with their thumbs up their behinds waiting for Texas or Florida to go left is what got the Democrats in this mess. The Big State philosophy is all well and good but they are a lot more small states and those are the ones that decide who is running the show more often then not.

If you, and the Democrats in general, are too stupid and arrogant to realize you need to reach out to the middle of the country and address the concerns of those people then you are going to keep winning moral victories.

A moral victory, as we all know, is just a nice way of saying you lost.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 1:52 pm to
Both parties are totally blown. Everything they want to do has been rejected by their respective bases.

Of course that doesn't faze them in the least.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 1:58 pm to
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There is no Democrats party right now. It is a leftist party not resembling anything like the Democrats of even 15 years ago.


You are wrong. There is no conservative party that supports smaller and lesser government today. The Dhimmicrats are now hardcore Marxist totalitarians obsessed with destroying America and the Republican Party is now the new Democratic Socialist Party that supports more government control and bigger government.

Meanwhile, both major political parties are utterly incompetent with respect to the scourge of Islam, as both major political parties premise everything they do on the utterly false belief that Islam is a so-called RELIGION OF PEACE, even though there isn't even one iota of evidence to back that utterly false premise up.

Indeed, the Islamic totalitarian world ran the slave trade for over a thousand years, it created the European Dark Ages by making thousands of raids along the coastlines of the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean all the way up to Iceland for loot and slaves annually on a yearly basis, especially for white female slaves which were highly valued in the slave markets of the Islamic totalitarian world. As Islam, enslaved whites and blacks equally as long as they were non-Muslims.

Islam completely shut down all trade and commerce among the various city-states and regions along the Mediterranean Sea and also all of the exchange of information and technology that had occurred for millennia.

The Muslims also burned down hundreds of libraries and destroyed all of the accumulated heretofore knowledge contained in those libraries of the world up to that time because they believed that all things that needed to be known were contained in the holy Koran.

An estimated 270 million non-Muslim people were brutally murdered in cold-blood by Muslims in the preceding 1400 years, in a jihad driven perpetually by the ideological force of Islam and all those that follow that ideological force of Islam, i.e., ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD.

Therefore, Islam has never ever been a so-called RELIGION OF PEACE in its entire existence and anyone who believes otherwise is utterly unhinged. Which means that all neocons, libertarians, and leftists are all literally insane, and unfortunately that is who exactly runs America’s foreign policy today.

Indeed, the belief that we are at war with only a tiny minority of RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS who practice a very perverted form of Islam called RADICAL ISLAM is little more than a politically correct myth.

The truth is we are in a "clash of civilizations", between their Islamic Totalitarian Civilization, on the one hand, and our Western Civilization, on the other hand, and it's a fight to the finish, when all is said and done, only one of our two fully incompatible civilizations will prevail.

Hence, the Western non-Muslim world’s only common sense solution, as opposed to a politically correct solution, is to separate our two fully incompatible societies from one another ASAP, and there is only one way to do that: Outlaw Islam, ban mass Muslim immigration with all of its excess baggage, and then round up all the enemy Muslim invaders and expel them ASAP.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22710 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 2:02 pm to
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centrists like Bill Clinton



Clinton was a centrist by necessity. The first two years were pure fruit loop SJW. It was Gingrich' foot in his arse that steered him right.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25445 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Well it hasn't happened yet and in the process they've lost the upper Midwest and the South.


Texas attracts a lot of people from the midwest and deep south.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45959 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:50 pm to
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Space Cowboy
I swear, you write just like an ex-poster from the past named Toothpick.

Posted by NCJeaux
North Shore girl in an NC world
Member since Feb 2017
177 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:02 pm to
Yes, @RT87. I have read several articles regarding generation Z's outlook. It is actually refreshing to hear and I look forward to their coming of age!
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
3858 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:10 pm to
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Once the facts are objectively and thoughtfully considered, this is the conclusion that logic dictates.

Your description is perfect, could not have done it better myself...actually, I couldn't even get close to your layout!

Will forward to relatives I know.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 8:38 pm to
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Both parties are totally blown. Everything they want to do has been rejected by their respective bases.

Of course that doesn't faze them in the least.


Winner! They do whatever they want and it's disgusting. It's us against them.
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