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re: Libertarianism is a cancer for the right
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:43 pm to Diego Ricardo
Posted on 9/15/25 at 1:43 pm to Diego Ricardo
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If you think wanting individual freedom is a cancer
That's the crux.
So many people have been polluted with emotional thinking and in/out-group based brain rot that they don't realize that they are arguing against individual freedom.
They've had their brains polluted to think this erosion of individual liberty is necessary for the out-group they fear, without realizing what impact that will have on the in-group. When you change the focus of discussion to being in this in/out group dynamic, that's the focus of discussion and not things like policy, principles, etc. It's just "how can I hurt out-group and/or protect in-group from perceived threats".
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Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:00 pm to burger bearcat
Whatever you want to call it we've got to get spending under control. We've got to get the size of gment under control. That will sink our country and neocon Republicans are addicted to the spending like a drug
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:25 pm to burger bearcat
Libertarians have both identified the problem, which is government, along with the solution, which is less spending. Your taxpayer funds are the primary source of funding for those trying end you, see USAID.
I support Trump and what he is doing, but he should have drastically slashed the budget. By and large, Republicans and conservatives say they are for less spending and smaller government but never actually do these things. How is any of this the fault of Libertarians?
I support Trump and what he is doing, but he should have drastically slashed the budget. By and large, Republicans and conservatives say they are for less spending and smaller government but never actually do these things. How is any of this the fault of Libertarians?
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:56 pm to Schleynole
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Whatever you want to call it we've got to get spending under control.
That deadline is coming up in a few weeks.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:56 pm to Privateer 2007
They hurt no one. They've never been able to garner anywhere even close to nuisance numbers. Last election maybe the Libertarian candidate got slightly more than .4% of the vote nationally. They typically run around that # . So less than one half of one percent .....on a good day
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:57 pm to burger bearcat
My problem with libertarians and moderates for that matter is that they always seem to give left wing biased sources (that pretend to be objective and non partisan) the benefit of the doubt because they exist in much higher quantities than their conservative biased counterparts. It makes them appear to be more mainstream and therefore unbiased (in the eyes of the average NPC) despite the fact that they are extremely biased.
Most of the one's I interact with on social media will parrot anti Republican and anti Trump left wing narratives while failing to hold Democrats to the same standard and seem completely incapable of recognizing the systemic bias that makes them think that way.
If you try to explain to these folks the Marxists infiltration into academia, bureaucracy, and journalism, they just treat you like a crazy conspiracy theorist.
A perfect example of this, is the bullshite chart going around claiming the right commits 76% of political violence and the left commits 4%, with the rest coming from other groups. My numbers may be off here, but they're close. People actually believe this shite and don't understand the biases of the people doing the counting. The threshold for leftwing violence classification is intentionally much much higher than the threshold to meet rightwing violence classification. Furthermore, it only takes a suggestion that a violent perpetrator is right wing and every lefty in existence will take that as a fact from there forward, despite mountains of evidence being available that prove otherwise.
Most of the one's I interact with on social media will parrot anti Republican and anti Trump left wing narratives while failing to hold Democrats to the same standard and seem completely incapable of recognizing the systemic bias that makes them think that way.
If you try to explain to these folks the Marxists infiltration into academia, bureaucracy, and journalism, they just treat you like a crazy conspiracy theorist.
A perfect example of this, is the bullshite chart going around claiming the right commits 76% of political violence and the left commits 4%, with the rest coming from other groups. My numbers may be off here, but they're close. People actually believe this shite and don't understand the biases of the people doing the counting. The threshold for leftwing violence classification is intentionally much much higher than the threshold to meet rightwing violence classification. Furthermore, it only takes a suggestion that a violent perpetrator is right wing and every lefty in existence will take that as a fact from there forward, despite mountains of evidence being available that prove otherwise.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:00 pm to ElCazador
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My problem with libertarians and moderates for that matter is that they always seem to give left wing biased sources (that pretend to be objective and non partisan) the benefit of the doubt because they exist in much higher quantities than their conservative biased counterparts.
The main problem is there aren't too many good conservative outlets. You get into Gateway Pundit/Conservative Treehouse/NYP territory quickly.
FNC is pretty decent and it's seen as left-adjacent by many on here.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:02 pm to RandRules
I've always understood libertarianism to mean " Follow the constitution as written." You dont get to use it as a suggestion or create some abstract meaning.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:53 pm to RandRules
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I support Trump and what he is doing, but he should have drastically slashed the budget
Government spending is the swamp
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
Old slow is back
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Interesting. What is your basis for saying so? I ask because I have probably only watched an hour or two in total over the past 5 years.
FNC is pretty decent
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:They want an authortarian dictator as much as those on the far left do. They just want a different one, and hope said dictator does different things.
So many people have been polluted with emotional thinking and in/out-group based brain rot that they don't realize that they are arguing against individual freedom.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:25 pm to jrodLSUke
quote:Exactly. The RIMOs Trump has aligned himself with have done so much better.
Massie’s entire career in DC accurately summed up in one sentence.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:28 pm to ElCazador
quote:
My problem with libertarians and moderates for that matter is that they always seem to give left wing biased sources
LIbertarians/conservative hybrids are further right than any of you in MAGA.
By a long shot.
We've watched in amusement, then horror as y'all drifted toward left wing economics.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:28 pm to Taxing Authority
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They want an authortarian dictator as much as those on the far left do
MAGS is just the more centrist version of Progressivism.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:30 pm to NC_Tigah
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What is your basis for saying so?
It's not things like TGP, TCT, or the NYP.
Too much right-centric content is built around tabloid sensationalism and inherent dishonesty to twist points instead of just reporting news/facts. Having the space grow in the internet does that.
FNC ain't perfect, but they're solid in terms of facts.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:31 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Perhaps so.
They want an authortarian dictator
For those of us who are libertarian though, someone like Trump with the wherewithal to dissemble the autocratic, antitruth, antiscience left is a welcome respite, because as Kirk's murder exemplifies, we as free-thinkers remain in a precarious place.
This post was edited on 9/15/25 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:One of those is nothing remotely like the others. What's your beef with the NYP?
It's not things like TGP, TCT, or the NYP.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The largest ever defamation settlement does not support FNC's own confidence in that claim.
FNC ain't perfect, but they're solid in terms of facts.
Posted on 9/15/25 at 4:57 pm to burger bearcat
Personal experience with libertarians I personally know. When it come to social structure and social norms they are firmly on the side of Dims. When it comes to fiscal matters, most are in the camp of conservatives. When it come to government, most are inline with a lot of conservatives who want a huge reduction in the size of the federal government.
The problem with libertarians is their belief with social structure and norms, it's inline with a shite load of Dims and that makes them a detriment to a healthy and orderly society.
The problem with libertarians is their belief with social structure and norms, it's inline with a shite load of Dims and that makes them a detriment to a healthy and orderly society.
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