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re: Liberals really are cringe with jokes/memes

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Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:16 am to
I want to go get a doctorate in history just to see what it's like. I'm working on my thesis, call up the professor at 2am. Uhh, I found something out here. We meet in an empty parking lot. He tells me to burn it and forget about it. Never speak of this again. We cannot lose our funding
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:17 am to
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How does Germany reaching terms with the UK lead to a Russian victory? That's what I don't understand in your hypothetical.


If Germany reaches terms with Britain after they lost Dunkirk, and Germany still loses to Russia, how do you think that would have ended in Europe without the British and Americans present in the west to stop them from moving to France and Spain?
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:18 am to
All will be forgiven if you donate six million dollars towards departments involved in sociological studies.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:19 am to
In Europe they put actual Oxford PhD historians in fricking prison
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:19 am to
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If Germany reaches terms with Britain after they lost Dunkirk, and Germany still loses to Russia,


It is the latter part that I do not understand.

Again, counterfactuals are difficult, stupid, and senseless in terms of wars...but why is a German defeat at the hands of the Soviets a given in this scenario?
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:22 am to
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How does Germany reaching terms with the UK lead to a Russian victory? That's what I don't understand in your hypothetical. 



I think he's basically going on the assumption that the Germans would've killed the 300k soldiers at Dunkirk or at least imprisoned until death. Hindsight has shown us the true cruelty of the Nazi camps and POW treatment - something like 90% died.

That was a massive portion of the Brits' standing army at that time and would've dealt a blow they couldn't recover from if continually pushed by the Germans.

That way British morale is toast as well, they agree to terms with the Nazis, and the USSR eventually steamrolls the both of them (primarily the Germans with UK just laying down at that point).

That leaves Germany, the UK, Poland, any territory that the Germans have occupied like France, etc susceptible to be taken by USSR in the power vacuum left by the Germans falling - i.e. easy pickings for the Soviet steamroller.
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Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:30 am to
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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:31 am to
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but why is a German defeat at the hands of the Soviets a given in this scenario?


It’s a 50/50 in my book... but why the frick are you arguing about this? Are you saying it would be comparably good to modern society if the Nazis won? Give me a fricking break. Either way, tens of millions are dead by the leadership’s own choice. They’re both evil. The Brits and Americans don’t agree with that, their innovations have saved like 2 billion lives, and the other two consciously kill into the 10 digits.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:32 am to
Liberals literally can not be funny
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:36 am to
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I think he's basically going on the assumption that the Germans would've killed the 300k soldiers at Dunkirk or at least imprisoned until death. Hindsight has shown us the true cruelty of the Nazi camps and POW treatment - something like 90% died.


Do you know where Dunkirk is? It’s in fricking France. Hardly any troops captured by Nazis on the Western front died by Nazi hands. Tens of millions did on the Eastern Front. On the Western Front, they wined and dined the officers in hopes they’d let some secrets slip. If the Nazis got a Russian officer, frick wining and dining him, torture him to death for the next 48 hours for information until his heart gives out and dies.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:37 am to
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but why the frick are you arguing about this?


Because I don't think your claim is credible. It doesn't really matter, but I have doubts.

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Are you saying it would be comparably good to modern society if the Nazis won?


No. I do not know this.

Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:37 am to
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Are you saying it would be comparably good to modern society if the Nazis won?



If they went on to beat the commies?


Maybe? Communism is the worst cancer of the 20th century. Worse than fascism, by the numbers.

ETA: just think, without the commies perhaps Rhodesia doesn’t fall. Perhaps S. Africa doesn’t fall to scum like Mandela
This post was edited on 10/5/18 at 1:44 am
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:43 am to
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OMLandshark


I don't think YOU know what you want / are trying to get across here. You argued with my post basically supporting YOUR assertions
Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 1:52 am to
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Raul Hilberg (June 2, 1926 – August 4, 2007) was an Austrian-born Jewish-American political scientist and historian. He was widely considered to be the world's preeminent[1][2][3]scholar of the Holocaust, and his three-volume, 1,273-page magnum opus, The Destruction of the European Jews, is regarded as a seminal study of the Nazi Final Solution
Here is his explanation for why there are zero records any where, at all from the notoriously meticulous Germans on the Final Solution

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But what began in 1941 was a process of destruction not planned in advance, not organized centrally by any agency. There was no blueprint and there was no budget for destructive measures. They [these measures] were taken step by step, one step at a time. Thus came about not so much a plan being carried out, but an incredible meeting of minds, a consensus-mind reading by a far-flung bureaucracy 
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 5:11 am to
This was only made for weak minded sheep that need to he told how to think. Otherwise known as progressives.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 10/5/18 at 7:12 am to
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Say what you will about National Socialism, Dude, but at least they had [EXEMPLARY TASTE IN AESTHETICS]"


They really did have some boss uniforms
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