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Liberals in Seattle and Portland can’t go outside and see real race relations
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:06 am
They live in 80% white, 7% black utopias. They may not even know a single black person in their friend group. They could walk around all day and not encounter a black person. What they hear and see on the news and on Reddit is the only info they have outside of their white bubble.
Here in Louisiana, go outside and interact with people at the store. Black and white folks all over the place not running each other over with cars, waving, saying hi, being courteous.
Here in Louisiana, go outside and interact with people at the store. Black and white folks all over the place not running each other over with cars, waving, saying hi, being courteous.
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:11 am to Logician
As someone who lives is Seattle, I agree. It is a huge bubble up here. The groupthink and ignorance levels are that of my four years in China.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:11 am to Logician
Visited Seattle in 2010 and Portland in 2015. Two things stuck me in both cities, the true lack of diversity in both cities (all white, maybe some Asians, no blacks or hispanics) and the amount of homelessness. They were everywhere. Portland especially you literally had to walk over them!!! Incredibly aggressive as well.
Say what you want about New Orleans but at least in NOLA they stick to being right near the building itself and not on the sidewalk. Or they are at the I-10 or US 90 underpass. They aren't literally blocking the sidewalk. And they aren't nearly as aggressive as they are in Seattle and especially Portland.
But going back on topic. Both Seattle and Portland you could walk around downtown almost all day without seeing a black person. It was pretty surreal for a US city, especially a major US city like Seattle.
Say what you want about New Orleans but at least in NOLA they stick to being right near the building itself and not on the sidewalk. Or they are at the I-10 or US 90 underpass. They aren't literally blocking the sidewalk. And they aren't nearly as aggressive as they are in Seattle and especially Portland.
But going back on topic. Both Seattle and Portland you could walk around downtown almost all day without seeing a black person. It was pretty surreal for a US city, especially a major US city like Seattle.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 8:14 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:14 am to Logician
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:16 am to TheSaintsMan
I’ve visited both within the last 5 years. Seattle was OK. Homelessness in the downtown area was bad, but I otherwise enjoyed the city.
Portland, out of all the American cities I’ve visited, is my absolute least favorite. My wife and I cut our trip short and went home early. Homelessness was beyond awful. Nothing particularly interesting about the city itself, besides the bars and restaurants.
Portland, out of all the American cities I’ve visited, is my absolute least favorite. My wife and I cut our trip short and went home early. Homelessness was beyond awful. Nothing particularly interesting about the city itself, besides the bars and restaurants.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:16 am to Kraut Dawg
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These types are the real racists. The ones that don't live around other races but think that other races can only excel with their privileged, white help.
Yep it's absolutely a form of racism. Affirmative Action alone comes from a thought process of "black are inferior and can't compete with whites in the workplace unless we give them an advantage". It's absolutely racists but both blacks and the white liberals are too ignorant to see it.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:20 am to Logician
Had a guy tell me how anti racist he was and I lacked awareness of black people. He's from Columbus, Indiana 41,000 people 91% white, I grew up in Donaldsonville.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:21 am to Logician
I reside with pride in Tennessee.
Louisiana is cool, too.
Louisiana is cool, too.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:32 am to 632627
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Portland, out of all the American cities I’ve visited, is my absolute least favorite. My wife and I cut our trip short and went home early. Homelessness was beyond awful. Nothing particularly interesting about the city itself, besides the bars and restaurants.
I enjoyed Portland but it was one of those "one and done" cities for me. Same with Seattle. I don't feel the need to go back to either city.
Since downtown Portland doesn't actually have that many hotels we stayed in Tigard about 10 miles out. Day 1 we went to the Rose Garden, Japanese Garden, Pittock Mansion and Hoyt Arboretum. Those were beautiful and a lot of fun.
Day 2 was when we were downtown. Went to the Lan Su Chinese Garden, Powell's Bookstore, Voodoo Doughnuts (this was before they started branching out) and then went to a few of the bars and restaurants. The area by the Chinese Garden and a few of the bars were fine but the overall downtown area was honestly a little scary. We were done and headed out by 6 that day. Would not have felt safe in downtown Portland at night.
It's unfortunate because Oregon itself is an incredibly beautiful state. Our Portland visit was just part of a larger visit to Oregon where we went to Hood River, Mt. Hood, Cannon Beach and Tillamook. Portland was fine but it was honestly the least favorite part of the trip. I wouldn't mind going back to Oregon but next time we will skip Portland. Same with Washington, would go back but skip Seattle.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 8:40 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:35 am to Kraut Dawg
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These types are the real racists. The ones that don't live around other races but think that other races can only excel with their privileged, white help.
More important - they vote with their feet and deliberately seek out a city with very few black people.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:52 am to Logician
I have spent lots of time around both - would never live in either one although bot states are terrific and beautiful places to hunt and fish.....and the people outside the cityies are as conservative as this board is! Just really great people. You do realize that's is true nationally - the split is urban vs rural with the suburbs being the swing areas....
And Oregon DID NOT PERMIT BLACKS TO LIVE THERE UNTIL AFTER WW II!!---look it up.,..that shocked me, hence the strength of their guilt....
And Oregon DID NOT PERMIT BLACKS TO LIVE THERE UNTIL AFTER WW II!!---look it up.,..that shocked me, hence the strength of their guilt....
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:56 am to Logician
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:57 am to TheSaintsMan
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It's unfortunate because Oregon itself is an incredibly beautiful state. Our Portland visit was just part of a larger visit to Oregon where we went to Hood River, Mt. Hood, Cannon Beach and Tillamook. Portland was fine but it was honestly the least favorite part of the trip.
Funny you mentioned this, because I asked a few friends for recommendations on what to do in Portland, and also queried the TD travel board- pretty much every recommendation required leaving the city of Portland. I should have known right then not to bother with the trip.
I did enjoy Seattle a bit more, but agree it’s a “one and done” city.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:58 am to 632627
Rest of those states are held hostage by these cities. Another reason for decentralization.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:04 am to Logician
I truly believe that by and large there are less "racist" people in the south today than in most places. For many of white people growing up/living here, it is almost a certainty you will interact with a black person on a daily basis. Whether that be in school, grocery store, restaurant, gas station, work, etc. And 99.9% of those daily interactions are cordial and respectful.
If you go to other cities it is entirely possible that you can go through an entire day and not interact with a black person. Or if you do, that person is in your socio-economic class, which generally determines the extent of relationship between people moreso than "skin color". Middle-class white people would much prefer to interact with middle-class black people than trashy, no class white folks. If the preference was solely based upon skin color that wouldn't be the case.
If you go to other cities it is entirely possible that you can go through an entire day and not interact with a black person. Or if you do, that person is in your socio-economic class, which generally determines the extent of relationship between people moreso than "skin color". Middle-class white people would much prefer to interact with middle-class black people than trashy, no class white folks. If the preference was solely based upon skin color that wouldn't be the case.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:06 am to Logician
Living in the south, I am glad that I am around black people rather than those weird whites who occupy Portland and Seattle.
It could change, but I have had exactly one negative interaction with a black person in decades where I felt race was an issue.
It could change, but I have had exactly one negative interaction with a black person in decades where I felt race was an issue.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:29 am to Logician
I was talking about this with someone the other day. I work in Montgomery, AL and you haven’t seen the rioting and looting like you do In many northern or out west cities. I think it’s specifically because we all live around each other, work together and interact with each other day in and day out.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:38 am to Logician
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Black and white folks all over the place not running each other over with cars, waving, saying hi, being courteous.
This. Every time I’m just rolling around and interact normally and friendly like with people of all races I think what a shite show social media is.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:44 am to 632627
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It's unfortunate because Oregon itself is an incredibly beautiful state. Our Portland visit was just part of a larger visit to Oregon where we went to Hood River, Mt. Hood, Cannon Beach and Tillamook. Portland was fine but it was honestly the least favorite part of the trip.
my MIL lives in Tigard and we frequent the area 2-3 times a year, our favorite place is the Tigard Tap House, good times there. I'm currently planning a trip right now involving the 2 weeks around Labor Day. we usually hit the DMB concert at the Gorge in Washington but it has been cancelled bc of C19. We will currently be flying into PDX head immediately to Astoria, manzanita, and cannon beach area. Fort George Brewery is a must for beer drinkers and foodies. From there we will be going to Eugene, never been there, then move on to Bend, to Hood River for some more good drinking and eating at Pfriem, then back around to Portland for all the beer that can be had there. we have our spots outside of Portland that always make our trip fun. Explore Oregon and get out of the city.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 10:09 am to Cwar11
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my MIL lives in Tigard and we frequent the area 2-3 times a year, our favorite place is the Tigard Tap House, good times there. I'm currently planning a trip right now involving the 2 weeks around Labor Day. we usually hit the DMB concert at the Gorge in Washington but it has been cancelled bc of C19. We will currently be flying into PDX head immediately to Astoria, manzanita, and cannon beach area. Fort George Brewery is a must for beer drinkers and foodies. From there we will be going to Eugene, never been there, then move on to Bend, to Hood River for some more good drinking and eating at Pfriem, then back around to Portland for all the beer that can be had there. we have our spots outside of Portland that always make our trip fun. Explore Oregon and get out of the city.
Tigard was where we stayed while in Portland, seemed like a nice area. When I went to Oregon I tried to cram in as much as I could. Had some great wine in Hood River and really enjoyed the outdoor vibe there. While we stayed in Government Camp and not Mt. Hood we loved going up to Mt. Hood and seeing the Timberline Lodge (it was June so there was some snow but only at the top).
On the way to Hood River we took the Historic Columbia River Highway and saw Multnomah Falls and a lot of the other falls. Really breathtaking.
Also saw Trillium Lake which gave us some great views of Mt. Hood, did some nature trail walking there.
Stayed in Seaside but went to Cannon Beach, Ecola State Park, Oswald West State Park and down to Tillamook. Both Ecola and Oswald West were some of the best state parks I've ever been to.
I didn't make it to Astoria or down to Eugene or Bend. Definitely let us know if that area is worth going to.
Like I said I would love to visit Oregon again but if I do it I'll probably skip Portland and explore other areas of the state.
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