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re: Liberals, get in here and tell us how Chairman Joe bombing Syria is different
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:28 am to CleverUserName
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:28 am to CleverUserName
He only has the open mouth selfie when there is a pe nis in his backside.
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:32 am to thebigmuffaletta
It’s not, it’s horrible. We don’t treat our politicians like they can do no wrong. Cruz should resign, but so should cuomo. Nobody should get a pass just because they’re on my “team.”
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:33 am to Brooklyntiger80
Why should Cruz resign again? Be specific as possible with no double standards
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:37 am to Tmcgin
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Did he ask Syria first for dirt on a political opponent first. L Ron Trump should of thought of that
I'm a real republican btw. Remember when Trump told Rush I wanted $2000 covid payment? yeah thought not
This thread isn’t about Trump. You need to get some help and move on with your life, TDS will eat you alive.
Also, is being a “real” Republican sort of like being “severely” conservative?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:40 am to thebigmuffaletta
He wants a nobel peace prize.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:44 am to Houag80
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He only has the open mouth selfie when there is a pe nis in his backside.
I dunno... he ran like a b***h. No matter how much practice they get that has to be difficult.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 9:55 am to thebigmuffaletta
Pretending like Trump didn't expand the Syrian theater by directly attacking Syrian forces in 2017 is some dishonesty. The air war continued all through Trump's tenure. Why people are pretending like he was some peacenik is beyond me.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:11 am to crazy4lsu
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Pretending like Trump didn't expand the Syrian theater by directly attacking Syrian forces in 2017 is some dishonesty. The air war continued all through Trump's tenure. Why people are pretending like he was some peacenik is beyond me.
Lol. But things are DIFFERENT now!! The meanie is gone!! No more cowboys in the White House! The warmongering is over! Compassion!!!! Competency!!!! Nice tweets!!!
So the celebration has morphed into excuse making and whataboutism in just a month? A single solitary month??
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:11 am to Tmcgin
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I'm a real republican btw.
OK. So you creamed your pants when you heard Biden bombed Syria?
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:13 am to CleverUserName
Well I didn't vote for Biden, so I'm not making any excuses. It was obvious Biden would continue the status quo, just like Trump continued the status quo with regards to FP. The major difference in Washington is how to handle Iran, which Trump bungled badly.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:28 am to crazy4lsu
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Pretending like Trump didn't expand the Syrian theater by directly attacking Syrian forces in 2017 is some dishonesty. The air war continued all through Trump's tenure. Why people are pretending like he was some peacenik is beyond me.
FWIW, I was extremely critical of Trump’s bombing of Syria in April of 2017.
Yet as a point of fact, Trump’s dismantling of the CIA’s covert ‘Timber Sycamore’ program was successful in deescalating the proxy wars that were being waged by our nation’s national security apparatus in Syria.
Putting that issue aside, it seems to me the main point here is the tremendous double standard at play in the MSM’s coverage of Biden’s actions as Commander in Chief compared to it’s coverage of Trump.
Jen Psaki questioned Trump's Syria strikes in 2017 tweet: 'What is the legal authority?'
A 2017 tweet by White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki began making the rounds Thursday night after President Biden approved U.S. military strikes against Iran-backed militias in Syria.
Ms. Psaki, who in 2017 was a liberal political commentator for CNN, derided some U.S. military strikes in Syria made by President Donald Trump as probably illegal, notwithstanding humanitarian issues.
“Also what is the legal authority for strikes? Assad is a brutal dictator. But Syria is a sovereign country,” she wrote on Twitter.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 10:46 am
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:32 am to Tmcgin
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L Ron Trump should of thought of that
First, you're brainwashed.
Also, it is "should have", not "should of".
Did you take English in elementary school?
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 10:50 am
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:36 am to crazy4lsu
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Well I didn't vote for Biden, so I'm not making any excuses. It was obvious Biden would continue the status quo, just like Trump continued the status quo with regards to FP. The major difference in Washington is how to handle Iran, which Trump bungled badly.
Well, I didn’t vote for Trump. Yet to ignore the reality that Trump was targeted for destruction by our nation’s wholly corrupt national security apparatus because Trump dared question the efficacy of these forever wars is to engage in an act of willful ignorance.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:48 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Well, I didn’t vote for Trump. Yet to ignore the reality that Trump was targeted for destruction by our nation’s wholly corrupt national security apparatus because Trump dared question the efficacy of these forever wars is to engage in an act of willful ignorance.
He questioned them, and yet went along with Neo-Con orthodoxy with regards to Iran, instituting the maximum pressure campaign that, unsurprisingly, didn't work. The US and Iran were preparing for war before the pandemic, yet somehow this complete failure with regard to Trump's policy is never discussed.
Trump questioned stationing troops in Syria, but the air strikes continued without abatement. In fact, there were 11 official incidences where US troops attacked Syrian government directly, a massive escalation that extends far beyond April 2017. Trump's rhetoric was effectively a distraction, while his actions continued the status quo. I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:50 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Putting that issue aside, it seems to me the main point here is the tremendous double standard at play in the MSM’s coverage of Biden’s actions as Commander in Chief compared to it’s coverage of Trump.
I can agree with that and still say that Trump pretty much continued the US FP status quo. He questioned troop involvement in Syria, and followed the Neo-Con advice on Iran, and in those respects he differed from the entire FP establishment with regards to Syria, and the liberal FP establishment with regard to Iran, while he enacted exactly what the Neo-Cons wanted.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:13 am to thebigmuffaletta
They get off on calling republicans war mongers.
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:21 am to crazy4lsu
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Trump's rhetoric was effectively a distraction, while his actions continued the status quo. I don't see what is so hard to understand about this.
Well, a vote in this UniParty® charade is a vote for the status quo. Presidents come and go but the Deep State rules in perpetuity.
Look, Trump is a big government loving Statist and I have never claimed otherwise. Yet populist pushback from a candidate like Trump is the best we can hope for in this wholly corrupted political environment.
As to your other point, certainly Trump failed to follow through on his promises to end these wars of permanent occupation but he did not expand upon them and in certain respects — as in Syria — he made concrete policy moves to deescalate those conflicts. What is so difficult to understand about that?
Billions of dollars’ worth of arms against Syria: Operation Timber Sycamore, in its various aspects, is the most important criminal case of arms trafficking in history....
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 11:22 am
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:35 am to Toomer Deplorable
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As to your other point, certainly Trump failed to follow through on his promises to end these wars of permanent occupation but he did not expand upon them and in certain respects — as in Syria — he made concrete policy moves to deescalate those conflicts.
Like which policies? Pompeo said that regime change was the stated policy of the USG, so that didn't change. Trump wasn't able to get troops out of Syria, so that is another failure. And no one seems to acknowledge that the maximum pressure campaign on Iran didn't work, as the stated goal of that policy was regime change as well. That escalated the proxy conflict significantly.
The reality is that the US, Israel, and the KSA have been unable to deal with the fact that they effectively lost the SCW, and that the big winners were Iran and Russia. That fact, of which the JCPOA is an admission, allowed Iran to retain concessions in those negotiations.
I don't see the specific policy moves that lead to deescalation, because the summer of 2019 to the beginning of the pandemic was characterized by an overt escalation of activities between Iran and the US. What other policies lead to deescalation?
ETA: We do agree about Timber Sycamore though. What a hilariously failed adventure.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 11:37 am
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:47 am to crazy4lsu
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Like which policies?
Well, ending the CIA’s covert arms program in Syria was — in the words of Joe Biden — ‘a pretty big freaking deal.’ ‘Operation Timber Sycamore’ led to headlines such as this:
And I’ve never claimed that Pompeo was anything but a Deep State puppet. Indeed, Pompeo is State’s ‘Exhibit A’ that a vote in this UniParty® charade is a vote for the left or right wing of the Deep State.
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