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re: LGBTQ teacher scolds muslim children for skipping school pride event
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:31 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:31 pm to Pettifogger
She confused the term "Pooh" in the book title as a gay title referring to butt play.
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Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:39 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:Of course it will play a role. As I see it, the difference of opinion here turns upon whether same-sex attraction is an inherent trait or a learned behavior. If the latter, a Pride event simply let's kids know that it is OK to be what you are AND that it is OK for your little friend to be who HE or SHE is. Maybe there will be less bullying and less shame.
If a greater general level of acceptance results in more people living that lifestyle, whether they are experimenting or simply feel comfortable coming out of the closet, isn't it disingenuous to claim that Pride Month for little children during which adult authority figures communicate that GAY IS OK has not bearing on whether those children will grow up expressing that lifestyle?
If the former and if an inherently-straight kid is being "converted" to some other sexual orientation, I suppose that the folks screaming "Groomer" may have something. The data just do not seem to support that notion.
I can say with 100% certainty that a rainbow flag in my classroom would not have gotten me interested in sucking dicks ... but it MIGHT have made me be nicer to the one kid in my class who was (in hindsight) clearly gay. Maybe our boy SOS can weigh-in and let us know whether the LACK of a rainbow flag would have made him more interested in pussy and less interested in cock.
quote:I've never said any such thing. Every year we have this discussion, and every year I say that the positive effect is that it WILL teach kids to be more open and accepting. For the VAST majority of them, that just means they will be nicer to their classmates who are "different."
To me that sounds like saying, "You're all hysterical, nothing will come of teaching young children that gay os ok,"
For some small percent of them (about 10%, per the studies), yes, that means that they will be more likely to accept their own innate nature.
I don't see that as being a bad thing.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:41 pm to Red Lasso
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Then the Muslims pushed her off the roof.
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Lots of options in Edmonton
That big construction crane about the middle of the pic on the tallest building works well for the hangman, as does that graceful arch in the bridge.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:44 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:The most-convincing material I have seen is found in the studies examining some of the genetic markers found in both homosexual men AND their sisters. Where the boys tend to be gay, the sisters tend to have far greater levels of fertility than women lacking their markers.
So can you explain the normalcy of homosexuality in an evolutionary/survival of the fittest context for us hicks?
In other words, the homosexual trait does not "die out" (for lack of a better term) because the same genetic markers which contribute to that behavior ALSO produce more babies in the females that share the same markers.
There are other studies as well, but this is the one that I find most interesting.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:46 pm to Jack Carter
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Muslim
Im really enjoying how identity politics has come full circle.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:47 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:All of that is statutory, not a matter of Constitutional interpretation.quote:I think a court would prosecute someone for a hate crime and declare it unconstitutional from a discrimination standpoint. You don't think a court would cry discrimination for doing that?
Let's be sure I understand you. You think that a court would rule that a local "We don't like Gays" day would violate the Establishment Clause? Seriously?
What if it was "We Don't Like Blacks" day?
You are treading on the edge of moving us into a discussion of public accommodation laws ... something that I have a decade of history here opposing, but that some idiot accuses me of supporting every time that the issue arises.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:49 pm to Flats
quote:Wow.quote:Sponsored by a public school, with that message being a focus of the day's learning? Hell yes.
You think that a court would rule that a local "We don't like Gays" day would violate the Establishment Clause? Seriously?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:50 pm to AggieHank86
So sinning is a credible approach to child rearing?
Posted on 6/8/23 at 2:52 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:That process/procedure sounds pretty specific to your jurisdiction. Presumably you are a voter, you can try to change it. If enough people share your views, it will change.quote:Only it doesn’t. That ability was neutered. ONLY the library board (in the case I noted) can do so, and they are appointed for 5 year terms. Parents, in this case, effectively have no short term recourse.
As I said above, parental involvement plays a reasonable role in identifying, preventing and/or removing it.
Yes, it might take a while. As a society, we have become impatient.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:19 pm to hogcard1964
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sinning
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:29 pm to AggieHank86
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Wow.
Then you can point us to one? Plenty of hicks in flyover country; surely they've done this before.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 3:39 pm to Flats
quote:There is no polite way to say this.quote:Sponsored by a public school, with that message being a focus of the day's learning? Hell yes.
You think that a court would rule that a local "We don't like Gays" day would violate the Establishment Clause? Seriously?quote:Then you can point us to one? Plenty of hicks in flyover country; surely they've done this before.
Wow.
That argument is so damned stupid that I simply cannot imagine anyone ever raising it in a court of law.
Sorry.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:01 pm to AggieHank86
quote:sorry but sexualizing school children and whitewashing huck finn ain't even in the same ballpark.
Again, MOST of the stuff that finds its way onto their ban lists is the sexual orientation version of Huck's friend Jim.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:16 pm to Flats
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I don't necessarily disagree, but nobody's even attempting to hold "Proud to be a Christian Day" as part of a normal school day, complete with teachers encouraging the indoctrination.
The fastest way to head off pride events is most likely to do exactly that IMO.
Hold the event, if they don’t let you sue and watch the whole ball of string unravel.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:19 pm to LSUnation78
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Im really enjoying how identity politics has come full circle.
Thats what happens when you try to fit too many diversities under the same banner
By then the purpose has been fulfilled however
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:30 pm to Pettifogger
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I get it, but the lesson classical liberalism holds for us is that the former will be barred eventually, and on a neutrality basis that somehow doesn't apply to the latter that's pretty much the world you're living in now, no?
Well the right needs to stop getting pushed around and hold their ground.
A good start would be taking a page from the Saul Alinsky playbook and make them live up to their own rules.
If they don’t allow a Christian event at school after the pride event you sue them.
As I see it we have two options as a society.
Option 1: We pick sides, divide things up and live within cultural groups and under separate governments which reflect our worldview.
Option 2: We accept that the direct consequence of multi-culturalism is that we either all live in a sanitized public space in which no one expresses themselves or all live in a perpetual state of offense at the views of our neighbors as they jostle for acceptance.
If we dont choose option 1, doesnt a sanitized public space seem preferable to you?
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:32 pm to Jack Carter
This is the perfect storm against this niche of their evil movement!
Muslims are as strict as it gets for a religion and beliefs, they do not budge & they do not take it lightly. This will be interesting to watch unfold as the country burns to the ground.
Muslims are as strict as it gets for a religion and beliefs, they do not budge & they do not take it lightly. This will be interesting to watch unfold as the country burns to the ground.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:38 pm to AggieHank86
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There is no polite way to say this.
That argument is so damned stupid that I simply cannot imagine anyone ever raising it in a court of law.
Sorry.
Translation: I made an asinine claim that I can't support.
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:44 pm to Flats
quote:No, Flats. YOU made the claim that a non-religious event would be covered by the Establishment Clause. The burden to support that (ridiculous) claim lies with YOU, not with me.
Translation: I made an asinine claim that I can't support.
This post was edited on 6/8/23 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 6/8/23 at 4:48 pm to AggieHank86
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No, Flats. YOU made the claim that a non-religious event
I stopped reading right there. I made the claim that an event that held a moral value judgement that was negative of homosexuality would not fly in a public school. Not a club, I'm talking teachers, administration, everybody having a "Gay is wrong" day.
Because it wouldn't.
I'll just file this with all those Huck Finn books you claim were banned, another bullshite claim in this thread that you can't back up.
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