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re: Let’s talk Gold and why it’s not cratering.

Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9526 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:32 pm to
The Comex and the LBMA are experiencing significant shortages of physical GFD bullion .... for both Gold and Silver.

Gold delivery at LBMA london has stretched out to 14 weeks, which is unheard of...... It's normally a day or two.

If the inventory of precious metals is in limited availability, that would generally mean increased shortages and higher spot prices in the near future .... but it might also mean the long awaited separation between physical gold and paper gold may be about to play out.

Once the paper ETF's begin sliding, it will be breathtaking in quickness.
The exceptions may be funds like PHYS, which are backed by physical metal ... and banks like JP Morgan, which has the largest physical depository of silver in the world.

The chaos is beginning ... and it isn't even high season yet ....
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 12:38 pm
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
955 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:32 pm to
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You won't get spot price when you sell it. You have to pay 28% 'collectable' tax on the profits.
Depends what it is. Dealers are actually paying above spot right now for gold/silver Eagles and Maple Leafs and have been for about 6 years. The paper price is that out of whack.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45248 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:36 pm to
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it’s kept outside the home
understood.

Most was around $250 in the late 90's. I did grab another 2 lbs. last Oct. It is up a little more than 14% since then. During the night, last night, it was up almost 17%.

I do think 17% every 6 months is unsustainable, barring worldwide events.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45248 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Dealers are actually paying above spot right now for gold/silver Eagles and Maple Leafs


What aboot the Krugs?
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
955 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:44 pm to
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What aboot the Krugs?
South African Krugerrands? JM Bullion will buy random year for $3,044 as I type this. Your local dealer will give you much more as they are desperate for inventory.

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Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112162 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:48 pm to
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but it might also mean the long awaited separation between physical gold and paper gold may be about to play out


laughs in physical gold and silver
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45248 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 12:49 pm to
Good to hear. My local dealer treated me very good in October. I would lend him some, if needed.
Posted by mikesliveisacheater
Member since Nov 2009
1329 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:03 pm to
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This guy gets it and that is why bond yields are low as well, no one is buying them


That's not how bond yields work. The higher the price the lower the yield percentage. If bond yields are down then that means the price of the bonds are up and people are moving their money into them because they have been a historical safe haven.
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 1:07 pm
Posted by David Fellows
Chicago but Georgia on my mind
Member since Mar 2024
1578 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:08 pm to
I expect my gold holdings to overtake my btc holdings soon. Both have
already routed my stocks.
Posted by EYE_on_LSU
San Marcos, TX
Member since Jul 2018
353 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:10 pm to
Gold, Silver and Real Estate is WEALTH
Everything else is pretend (Fiat)

We HOPE fiat money will give us the same value in the future.

BUT IT NEVER DOES.- INFLATION

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66298 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23044 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:14 pm to
India owns more gold than anyone

Most is in jewelry and temples
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5336 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:16 pm to
All I know is I wish I was King of the Klondike, Tony Beets right now.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26217 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17004 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 1:48 pm to
This makes absolutely no sense of buying. Warren Buffet famously said something similar to that buying gold is mistake as you lose when you purchase, pay to sell it and stick it in the ground while paying someone to watch it
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6566 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Gold has intrinsic value.


does it? my FA says it doesn't whereas silver has some. He does have some vested interest in keeping me away from precious metals though.

He likes to say buy ammo if you're looking for currency with some real intrinsic value.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8809 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:42 pm to
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This makes absolutely no sense of buying. Warren Buffet famously said something similar to that buying gold is mistake as you lose when you purchase, pay to sell it and stick it in the ground while paying someone to watch it


My father bought at $1350/oz. He spends about $50/year for a small safe deposit box. There are MANY days when the gold in that box is worth $30,000 more than it was the day before. I don’t think having ‘someone else pay to watch it’ bothers my father very much.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51812 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:51 pm to
I bought a substantial amount of gold in July 2023 right at a $2,000 peak. It immediately dropped and I was the butt of jokes for months. I hadn’t looked in a long time, but just did and it is above $3,000. That gain in gold covers 5/6 of my losses today (so far). I didn’t do it to diversify investments, but it’s worked out well for that.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:52 pm to
can you show me the returns of the S&P over the last 30 years compared to Gold?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51812 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 2:54 pm to
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Exactly. I own tangible gold. The loopholes in place that help you to avoid taxes are really easy to exploit. What alot of folks don't realize is that if you sell gold properly, you're on the honor system when it comes to taxes.

I’m glad to hear you two debunk that; I was worried for a minute. And the Honor System? Yep, that’s the system for me.
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