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re: Let’s talk ESGs and the repercussions

Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
52070 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:30 pm to
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How do we get this nonsense reversed?


Your common man and neighbor starts openly saying frick this and frick that in public.

The louder the quiet folks get the more mainstream loudness becomes
Posted by Intelligent
Member since Jun 2017
675 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:31 pm to
ESG is inconsequential. If you care you're dumb.
Posted by You_R_Here
Member since Mar 2021
345 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:35 pm to
Honestly, I don’t think it’s necessarily one political party doing this.

I don’t believe either of the two major political parties in the US has the kind of power to force corporations to bend to their wills. (It seems to be the other way around with all the public-private partnerships.)

I think it’s the large asset management companies (Blackrock, Vanguard, Fidelity, State Street, etc) *influencing* corporations into compliance with the double-edged socially progressive/climate crisis agendas.

I thought publicly-traded companies companies were under legal obligation to behave in ways that served the financial interests of shareholders.

I can’t understand how adopting marketing strategies that have recently and obviously failed is in alignment with management risk mitigation practices.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:35 pm to
This is actual a positive move on the Insurance side. Ins companies like Lloyd's were in the beginning of this as they were holding oil and other companies hostage by not giving them policies if they didn't do what they wanted them to do. We need it to be bigger news though. Also, some large funds are dropping the creation of ESG fund offerings.

proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/1016415/lloyd-s-of-london-latest-in-long-list-of-net-zero-alliance-quitters
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15488 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:01 pm to
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So recently we’ve seen an uptick in companies marketing all of this liberal ideology.

Inflation has reminded us of one of the big risks to printing and giving away a lot of money.

Subsidizing the incomes of young people via student loan pauses and other government payouts during COVID resulted in fewer workers in industries like dining.

People saw the impact of politicizing healthcare during the scamdemic. We saw that the real threat was from centralized medicine, not socialized medicine. Government agencies lied and deceived to achieve their goals, usually financial goals with pharmaceuticals and alternate treatments were effectively banned.

So in the last few years, the Dems have seen their policies of pumping money into the economy, universal income, and socialized medicine take massive hits when imposed. Now, it’s all about running campaigns on victimhood and segregation. Sad.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2597 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:14 pm to
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Think of some of the futuristic movies where propaganda is played non stop at terminals, train stations, grocery stores, etc.


You mean like the same shite that plays on the screen at the gas pumps?

We’re in the future buddy
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
2644 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:18 pm to
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get this nonsense reversed?

Get the government to stop funding it.

Bongino was addressing part of it in his podcast today.

He played a video of a shitheel from an NGO, funded by you and me, that's partnered with the WEF and is bullying corporations into complying with this crap. Between the bullying and the ESG cash the corporations fold easy.

Bongino -video-exposes-the-cabal-pushing-the-woke-agenda-ep.-2021

It's a really good episode.

He also had a segment on one of these NGO we pay for talking about causing chaos amongst the fascist right by infiltrating their social spaces, posing as Trump or DeSantis supporters and attacking others.. to stir shite up and ruin any chance of reasonable discourse between us.
It's working.. as evidenced by 90% of the threads on this forum.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:20 pm to
some esg is about the survival of the species.
your only come back is the next quarterly report.

esg is wholistic, in sync.

This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 9:21 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
9994 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

some esg is about the survival of the species.
your only come back is the next quarterly report.

esg is wholistic, in sync.






What an excellent party member you are comrade!


quote:

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This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 9:28 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
68339 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:09 pm to
Hate to say it, but ESG represents game over for the culture wars. The global Leftists silently embedded themselves into all of the critical global institutions while everyone else sleptwalked. At this point, it's all over but the screaming. Credit where credit is due, we were sold down the river by our own morally bankrupt politicians while being outflanked by the other side.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19452 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:11 pm to
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How do we get this nonsense reversed?

Cry uncle!
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10409 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:16 pm to
It's another attempt to destroy pure, true capitalism. Fricking liberal Democratic scum
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10905 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:26 pm to
I'm pretty damn close to closing my stock portfolio because of ESG. I don't have a 401k and am "retired." I just have about 30k in a broker account and I'm about ready to just say screw it. I don't care about the damn thing at all. That way I can be 100% disconnected from ESG.

All of my real money is in real estate.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:33 pm to
Jesus...What if some corporations add campaigns told you it's really good to wear clown shoes to support clown podiatrists. If you're not one or the other or a family member is, what would it matter to you.
NOBODY is forced, as you say, to do or believe a damn thing unless they make a choice to do or believe something.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10905 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:40 pm to
You might not care about ESG but it's certainly having an impact on your 401k.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:03 pm to
It’s literally a corporate tax. These companies have 10-50 people in their ESG and DEI groups without one cent of revenue. Stupid sheep.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107238 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:33 pm to
Sure but there’s way more to come. Wait till they make you feel good about owning nothing and living off of plants and bugs.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
107238 posts
Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:36 pm to
You’re not grasping what this is all about. Lol

You will
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
9994 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 3:45 am to
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Jesus...What if some corporations add campaigns told you it's really good to wear clown shoes to support clown podiatrists. If you're not one or the other or a family member is, what would it matter to you.
NOBODY is forced, as you say, to do or believe a damn thing unless they make a choice to do or believe something.


I'm not sure of you are really this ignorant or not. But I will try to break it down anyways...

First, again the issue with ESG has nothing to do with what X, Y, or Z company wants to do on their own freewill as part of a free market economy. The issue is all these companies being forced and extorted by the handful of capital investors (using everyone's 401K and pension money) to deliver propaganda out to the people.

2nd. It's not about me, I am pretty confident in my ability to spot propaganda messages, understand where and whybthey are bing delivered. The problem is these propaganda messages are being beong delivered to impressionable minds. If the propaganda is effective with changing their behavior and political beliefs, that will have an overall effect on myself and family's life.

3rd reason is the why. Why is this happening, and who is the one at the top pushing it down. This is all out in the open, that it is being pushed by globalist elites like at the WEF, for the express purpose to weaken humanity, specifically the west, and prepare it for the Great Reset and a single global society, as well as depopulation (particularly in the west, the 3rd world will come later). This isn't a conspiracy, illuminati shite, theybare very open about their intentions, just listen to what they say and then follow their actions.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 3:48 am
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 4:13 am to
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some esg is about the survival of the species.
your only come back is the next quarterly report.

esg is wholistic, in sync.



i.e. it is unprovable horse shite because the "species" can never be declared "saved"

How does one p[erson believe ALL of this left wing bullshite?
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