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re: Let's say healthcare is a right
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:30 am to Dale Murphy
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:30 am to Dale Murphy
quote:Should be similar to homeowners or auto insurance for other low-probability events. Since its statistically unlikely, the premium for it should be fairly low.
So what happens if you get into a car wreck and require brain surgery? You got enough in savings to foot that bill?
Of course one could always forgo even that kind of coverage, even though it's prudent. In that case you would have to accept the consequences and be wiped out financially, or even be denied further treatment. It would suck, but if you are aware of the risks then it should still be your decision.
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:31 am to geauxtigahs87
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Well for one attorneys who are appointed to people who can't afford them work for the local government, and have chosen to do so.
So if a nurse works at a public hospital (and has chosen to do so) is that slavery?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:34 am to hawgfaninc
carrying it further out still:
force select individuals to study medicine
force med schools to accept chosen students
force professors to teach med students
force employers(government) to pay new wave of docs
a lot of forced initiatives and the product will be far inferior
force select individuals to study medicine
force med schools to accept chosen students
force professors to teach med students
force employers(government) to pay new wave of docs
a lot of forced initiatives and the product will be far inferior
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:35 am to hawgfaninc
Socialism/communism is state run slavery.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:37 am to NYNolaguy1
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A large portion of cancer patients (among many other ailments) have done nothing to deserve their conditions.
Well, not on purpose. Believe it or not, simply altering your diet can dramatically decrease your chances of becoming ill. Keeping your body in an alkaline state prevents a lot of things. Cancer grows and thrives in acidic environments. I have ran fever maybe 3 times ever that I can remember. Once I turn 40, I will probably begin to buy into the insurance plans offered. But as of now, I don’t see the point.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:45 am to NYNolaguy1
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has chosen to do so
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is that slavery?
What do you think?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:46 am to FearlessFreep
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Should be similar to homeowners or auto insurance for other low-probability events. Since its statistically unlikely, the premium for it should be fairly low.
I agree. I'm all for catastrophic coverage.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 8:47 am to NYNolaguy1
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I think a general consensus is that treating poors and the broke at the ER is a poor way to spend money, it also provides a poor quality of care
Giving them health insurance didn’t decrease ER visits. It increased them.
It’s also the general consensus that allowing lawyers to pillage the profits of the medical industry is a poor way to spend money and it provides an inefficient model of care.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:01 am to geauxtigahs87
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What do you think?
That was more directed to the OP's question asking if healthcare is a right is it slavery, not your response.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:04 am to The deucer
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Believe it or not, simply altering your diet can dramatically decrease your chances of becoming ill.
Diet, genetics, environment, quality of life, and stress all affect the liklihood of cancer. Its more than just diet, however.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:29 am to NYNolaguy1
IN NO WAY is Healthcare a right in the sense Due Process is a right...
Due Process involves the state or government trying to accuse and convict you of a crime in which they will then attempt to penalize you and restrict your other constitutional rights based on said accusations/evidence.
IN NO FCKING WAY IS THIS SIMILAR TO HEALTHCARE.
AT ALL.
How is no one checking these people on their inane BS.
Due Process involves the state or government trying to accuse and convict you of a crime in which they will then attempt to penalize you and restrict your other constitutional rights based on said accusations/evidence.
IN NO FCKING WAY IS THIS SIMILAR TO HEALTHCARE.
AT ALL.
How is no one checking these people on their inane BS.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 9:31 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:29 am to hawgfaninc
Did you just call all of the VA doctors slaves?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:30 am to hawgfaninc
Even if healthcare were a right, that doesn't make healthcare insurance a right
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:33 am to MisslePig
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IN NO WAY is Healthcare a right in the sense Due Process is a right...
So govt mandating a lawyer to represent someone in court is different than govt mandating someone get healthcare? Yet you think one is slavery and the other is not.
Can you elaborate on this foggy idea for me?
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:38 am to Jbird
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Premium boom in a few Fridays!
Someone is keeping up with the changes coming soon.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:41 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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Your 30% premium increase is just around the corner. Thanks Donald.
My insurance saw no increase for 2019 and my deductible , which was zero before the ACA, is being reduced from 1000 to 250
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 9:44 am
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:43 am to NYNolaguy1
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Diet, genetics, environment, quality of life, and stress all affect the liklihood of cancer. Its more than just diet, however.
This is true. I just personally think diet is main contributor in overall health, You do have control over all but 1 of those, though.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:47 am to NYNolaguy1
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So govt mandating a lawyer to represent someone in court is different than govt mandating someone get healthcare?
Yes. Because healthcare is not a right.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:48 am to Centinel
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Yes. Because healthcare is not a right.
Agreed. I was going off the OP's assumption that...
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Let's say healthcare is a right
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:57 am to Raz4back
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So govt mandating a lawyer to represent someone in court is different than govt mandating someone get healthcare?
Ignoring the vastly different circumstances in which my point was based, I will do my best to help clarify.
The state can chose NOT to prosecute...ergo, remove the need to "force" a lawyer to represent someone. Healthcare does not work that way.
The state can also legally "recoup" the costs of said Lawyer from the defendant. Healthcare does not work that way.
A court appointed lawyer is one individual using little to no resources other than themselves. Many times they "volunteer" to be assigned as CAAs. Healthcare does not work that way. While there are "volunteer" Doctors, Healthcare uses dozens of resources not necessarily belonging to or including just one person.
Again. All of these are moot points because the situations are so vastly different in nature the "right to" aspect shuts down the "forced to perform" comparison before it even comes to the table.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 9:58 am
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