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re: Let’s go back over Trump’s wild post, shall we…

Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:41 am to
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:41 am to
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House democrats just tried to push for the release of the files but house GOP voted no

Lied about Medicaid and now the Epstein files lol the midterms are gonna be brutal for these frauds

I don’t think so. Look at the alternative. How are they looking as an option? If Trump’s taken a step backwards, they’ve taken two or three. Probably three. Hell maybe four. Let’s go conservative on it and say three. One step backwards versus three. I’m not a math scientist, but I think that’s no loss. Naw shite that’s a net gain!
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 1:45 am
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:43 am to
The more I drink the better I can see. My wife doesn’t necessarily agree but she don’t know nothin.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:44 am to
Sometimes rebel is right, I am blind drunk, but sometimes I'm not.
Posted by Louisianalabguy
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 6:09 am to
You have come far young jedi anon.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 6:40 am to
Dems are begging for the files to be released.

That is a new facet that didn’t previously exist.

I’ll allow it.


Trump is either incredibly dumb, or…smart as a fox. Time will tell.
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 7:17 am to
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 7:23 am to
I always thought it was a trap…… the oness pushing for release are the far left lib lunatics so there is that…..the cia and fbi and mossad we’re rumored to be involved with Epstein so it is not a stretch to believe that Comey Brennan Clapper Clinton edited the so called list or black book ….

Then there is the fact that if you can’t prosecute a crime you are not supposed to throw dirt ….. just prosecute the crimes
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 7:39 am to
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He alleges that the files were “written”, by the Obama/Hillary/Comey/Brennan cabal.


The raid on Epstein and his arrest and suicide/murder was all in 2018-19. Where is all the evidence from that? The FBI evidence log has numerous hard drives, video discs and contents of safes listed. Did this cabal get in a time machine and manipulate this in the future?

It is pretty obvious what is going on here. Trump is listed in the file. When he pissed off Elon - Elon punched back with Trumps biggest vulnerability - he is in the files. And in a way that you can't redact a page or two and make it go away.

Trump tried stringing us along, then claiming the file doesn't exist, now its that parts of the file are fake - guess which parts?

And if you think the Dems would have released it to destroy Trump - think again. The Clintons still very much have veto power over the party and Bill is also in the files. And likely a long list of other democrats. Neither party would release the files because it would be an act of mutual destruction.

My take - CIA were investigating Epstein WAY before the FBI. I'm guessing late 80s early 90sish. Prior to that. JE was just a pedo wealth manager working for the owner of Victoria Secret. Around 1990 several things happened - 1) he met Maxwell, daughter of an MI6/Mossad double agent (killed 1991) 2) he bought the homes in NYC, palm beach, and the island (where did the money come from?) 3) it is suggested this is when he started trafficking women - the homes all decked with cameras, it is fair to say he was collecting videos of individuals engaged in sex with minors for the purpose of blackmail. We can also presume this was all funded and directed by another country - Israel? So CIA would have been watching. And pre-911 we know they would not have shared intel with any other agency.

Why would Trump be in the files?

This is obvious. If Epstein was an Israeli asset - it makes sense that he would try actively to get close to Trump. Trump would have been a huge target for Epstein. Trump owned Miss Teen USA - Casinos - NY real estate for the elite. He is exactly that guy Epstein would have targeted.

Timeline:
Late 80s Trump admits he met Epstein.
1992 - video of Trump showing the Miss USA teens to Epstein
1992-97 - Trump in flight logs
2002 - The NYM article on JE where Trump calls him "terrific guy - likes young women"
2004 - Trump and JE had falling out over Maison de L’Amitié bidding war
2005 - Florida started investigating JE on sex trafficking
2007 - Epstein Mar A Lago account closed. JE supposedly kicked out for hitting on another member's teen daughter.
2008 - JE convicted in Florida

Question - Is it possible that an Israeli agent could honeytrap Trump into doing something on a secret camera that could be used for blackmail? Keep in mind, not all the JE women were under 18 - they were just young.

Do you honestly think - after what we know about Trump (axis Hollywood, Stormy Daniels) that if in a position where JE invited 1990s Trump over and showed him a room of naked women/girls, Trump would say - I have to go home to my wife? Or would he say something (or do something) on a hidden camera that would get him in the files?

This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 7:43 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 7:48 am to
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Did this cabal get in a time machine and manipulate this in the future?

No, the SDNY (where Comeys daughter is employed) held the files and refused to release them. Which caught the attention of reporters
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The Associated Press spoke with lawyers and law enforcement officials in criminal cases of Epstein and socialite former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell who said they hadn’t seen and didn’t know of a trove of recordings. Indictments and detention memos do not reference the existence of videos of Epstein with children, and neither was charged with possession of child sex abuse material even though that offense would have been much easier to prove than the sex trafficking counts they faced.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 7:53 am to
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No, the SDNY (where Comeys daughter is employed)


SDNY is a court

Comey's daughter is an AUSA in that district but employed by the DOJ...and she's the only person to get a skin on the wall in this most recent Epstein saga.

And she only gets what the FBI provides, and that FBI was under the control of the Trump admin for 18 months prior to losing the 2020 election.

If this evidence existed and was lost, it happened while Trump was the President almost assuredly.
Posted by WaltWhite504
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:04 am to
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No, the SDNY (where Comeys daughter is employed) held the files and refused to release them. Which caught the attention of reporters


Oh I am 100% agreeing that they held information from law enforcement

What I don't understand is they part about faking information - as Trump claims.

What information did they fake? and why is Trump so concerned that there is fake information?

I think Trump in all his arrogance never thought for one minute that he was in the files. Perhaps the thought all the women were of age? Perhaps he didn't know about cameras and recordings? When Elon mentioned it - he asked, what is he talking about? Then it was revealed he was in the files.

Trumps explanation is that it is all fake and Obama put it in the file.

I think it is more likely that his friend of 20 years was an Israeli spy who honey trapped him.

Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33466 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:11 am to
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SDNY is a court

Is it? And nothing more?
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Maurene Comey - United States Attorneys' Offices - LinkedIn

Experience. United States Attorneys' Offices. Southern District of New York.

So this SDNY of the Justice Dept wouldnt have the FBI files in their possession to facilitate the arrests of both Epstein and Maxwell?
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33466 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:15 am to
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What information did they fake?

They lost videos and certain interviews regarding DIMs and high-powered people. So releasing whats in them now, just puts a target on the backs of people the DIMs want sacrificed
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:16 am to
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So this SDNY of the Justice Dept wouldnt have the FBI files in their possession to facilitate the arrests of both Epstein and Maxwell?


If only my post didn't directly address this
Posted by Rebel
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:18 am to
Think of SDNY being a duty station of the DOJ.

Easier for people to understand.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33466 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:19 am to
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If only my post didn't directly address this

Yeah, I was only reinforcing that the SDNY of the DOJ would have had the files, that you said was only a court

But as usual you couldn't comprehend that you were mistaken
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:20 am to
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Yeah, I was only reinforcing that the SDNY of the DOJ would have had the files


The FBI

Under the Trump administration

quote:

But as usual you couldn't comprehend that you were mistaken

I'm not and I explained all of this in that post

Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27001 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:27 am to
I have been saying that the investigation into Epstein was part of the coverup, IMO. There are too many powerful people involved, and many of them may be innocent. Just revealing the names would cause total chaos. I think witnesses have been silenced, videos/photos deleted, files shredded, all to protect the guilty.

There may not be enough evidence left to convict anybody, at this point, short of Guylaine Maxwell coming forward and testifying, and she probably isn't trustworthy. How much money could she get for testifying that she never saw anybody touch an underage girl or boy?

All this would do is totally draw attention away from the border, peace talks, trade deals, drilling, budget cuts, and the economy. It would suck all the oxygen out of the room. There may be a good time to bring this up, but now is not the time. I think after the mid-terms would be good.

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:35 am to
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I think Trump in all his arrogance never thought for one minute that he was in the files. Perhaps the thought all the women were of age? Perhaps he didn't know about cameras and recordings? When Elon mentioned it - he asked, what is he talking about? Then it was revealed he was in the files.



There's no way to know what evidence even exists at this point, let alone knowing who controls it. But keep in mind that this is political, not necessarily legal. Trump (or anybody) wouldn't need to be guilty of breaking any laws for the blackmail to be effective
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36641 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 9:04 am to
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So we are just going to pretend that very same group in govt didnt whip up a Russian collusion criminal file out of nowhere, to go after a private citizen, running to displace their firm hold on govt?



No we aren’t going to pretend it’s not possible.



Hence why the statement of “they did this now shut up about it” is a completely illogical response.


They can do it so if we know they did it then why are we not working to uncover that and bringing it to light
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 9:07 am
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