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Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:31 pm to Stidham8
Cry more.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:33 pm to dkreller
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You may end up correct with this statement but I’m not sure how you can act so certain when in reality you don’t know shite
What don’t I know?
I know the Strait is Hormuz is now entirely controlled by Iran through threats and insurance manipulation, that Iran still has nuclear capability, that the mullahs still run the show, and that Iran’s proxies remain a force at large in the region.
So tell, me please—and seriously, let’s discuss it—what positives have occurred or will occur because we bombed some stuff and killed some people?
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:34 pm to SDVTiger
Still no substance, troll.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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A bad deal is better than attempting regime change or continuing this war like it was occurring.
I was going to downvote but I thought about it some more and it makes sense. No matter how excited our President would get about our “progress,” this was aging like curdled milk in the fridge.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:39 pm to Indefatigable
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What don’t I know?
You don’t know the details of the deal. You’re just speculating and assuming the worst.
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I know the Strait is Hormuz is now entirely controlled by Iran through threats and insurance manipulation
I’m seeing reports that the Strait will be de-mined and open free of charge.
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Iran still has nuclear capability
Iran’s military is fricked up pretty bad and the nuclear situation isn’t put to rest yet.
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Iran’s proxies remain a force at large in the region.
Unfortunately this is true. I’ll give you that but at least you have to admit they are weakened pretty good.
You don’t seem capable of having a serious discussion with all your emotion.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:43 pm to Stidham8
This board is just crawling with ridiculous assholes who think they know better than Trump about everything. Here are the facts:
- the goal was to prevent Iran from having nukes
- inaction was not an option
- we sailed in and wiped out any ability for Iran to build nukes for years to come, experiencing minimal casualties ourselves
- Iran tried to blackmail the world by closing the straits
- Trump has used diplomacy to back them off of that threat
- This was all done in a historically short time frame
- THE WORLD IS SAFER FROM IRANIAN NUKES TODAY
No matter what Trump does, a lot of count will come out of the woodwork and throw a fricking tantrum. SIT DOWN AND SHUT THE frick UP YOU ANKLE BITERS. You are wrong about everything.
Everybody knows Iran is 100% untrustworthy. They will try to build nukes again. They might try closing the straits again. When that happens, I guess we'll just have to let Iran "humiliate us" by laying helpless as we bomb the frick out of their retarded 7th century asses again. How will we bear such humiliation?! Do you goddamn morons hear yourselves?
- the goal was to prevent Iran from having nukes
- inaction was not an option
- we sailed in and wiped out any ability for Iran to build nukes for years to come, experiencing minimal casualties ourselves
- Iran tried to blackmail the world by closing the straits
- Trump has used diplomacy to back them off of that threat
- This was all done in a historically short time frame
- THE WORLD IS SAFER FROM IRANIAN NUKES TODAY
No matter what Trump does, a lot of count will come out of the woodwork and throw a fricking tantrum. SIT DOWN AND SHUT THE frick UP YOU ANKLE BITERS. You are wrong about everything.
Everybody knows Iran is 100% untrustworthy. They will try to build nukes again. They might try closing the straits again. When that happens, I guess we'll just have to let Iran "humiliate us" by laying helpless as we bomb the frick out of their retarded 7th century asses again. How will we bear such humiliation?! Do you goddamn morons hear yourselves?
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:44 pm to Gunny Hartman
But muh backing out of JCPOA caused this
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:44 pm to dkreller
Bro you need to take off your rose colored glasses. If we had a good deal we would be talking about all the good shite we're getting. Instead we're doing all the giving. Iran controls the street as soon as we move, if you don't think that is true you are out of your mind. This is just another delay tactic. That is why they're not signing anything today like they were supposed to. The goal post was moved again. And it will keep on moving.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:46 pm to Hampton
And if this ends of being another delay tactic, Kharg island will be occupied.
Eta this has nothing to do with “rose colored glasses”. I just refuse to speculate until facts are released.
Eta this has nothing to do with “rose colored glasses”. I just refuse to speculate until facts are released.
This post was edited on 6/14/26 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:47 pm to dkreller
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You don’t know the details of the deal. You’re just speculating and assuming the worst.
You’re avoiding substance because you support the person instead of merit.
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I’m seeing reports that the Strait will be de-mined and open free of charge.
Oh, so just like it was before we did stupid shite. Status quo ante, as I said.
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Iran’s military is fricked up pretty bad and the nuclear situation isn’t put to rest yet.
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Unfortunately this is true. I’ll give you that but at least you have to admit they are weakened pretty good.
No one has ever cared about Iran’s conventional military. Your naivety is astounding.
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You don’t seem capable of having a serious discussion with all your emotion.
No, it seems more like you’re uncomfortable when confronted by someone who told all of you this was stupid in February, when it started, and for these exact reasons, and then gets to explain why he had that opinion.
This post was edited on 6/14/26 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:48 pm to dkreller
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And if this ends of being another delay tactic, Kharg island will be occupied
I would really love to believe that, but basing actions on past history says that we won't occupy shite
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:50 pm to Indefatigable
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Oh, so just like it was before we did stupid shite. Status quo ante, as I said.
Ok now you’re just lying. Like I said, you’re incapable of having a serious discussion.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:53 pm to dkreller
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Ok now you’re just lying. Like I said, you’re incapable of having a serious discussion.
Name the lie.
Defend the agreement. Defend the campaign. On the merits.
Just say what it is that we accomplished. Note that if what you list is killing replaceable people or bombing replaceable equipment that I’ll just laugh at you.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:55 pm to Indefatigable
Iran has mined the Strait since the 80s.
Look it up
Look it up
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:56 pm to dkreller
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Iran has mined the Strait since the 80s. Look it up
And yet commerce flowed completely uninterrupted.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:57 pm to Indefatigable
Ok bud
Eta upvoting yourself is a bad look
Eta upvoting yourself is a bad look
This post was edited on 6/14/26 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 6/14/26 at 7:59 pm to dkreller
So commerce did not flow completely freely until late February of this year?
Your posts are so devoid of substance that I don’t understand what your point is supposed to be.
Your posts are so devoid of substance that I don’t understand what your point is supposed to be.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 8:00 pm to ronricks
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Someone told Trump the Iranian people would eventually rise up and overthrow their government. Most likely Israel. It never happened. I shite on Trump on here all the time so I’m going to post something positive - I think Trump is absolutely negotiating in good faith the problem is you can’t negotiate with religious fanatics of any persuasion. They will fight until the last Man is standing. I also agree with Trump about Kharg Island the vast majority of Americans do not have the stomach for what that would entail so Trump isn’t wrong. Trump should have went full bore and kept his foot on the gas instead of taking that “two week” break early in the war. We had the advantage and could have decimated certain areas of Iran that would have significantly crippled them for a decade. Instead, we are going to get articles saying Iran is “two weeks away” frame a nuke in less than 24 months. Wait and see.
This is a very reasonable assessment. Good post.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 8:01 pm to Indefatigable
Why do you think shipping through the Strait has required such high insurance liability rates for DECADES?
Because Iran was nice and didn’t threat or mine the Strait?
Yeah that’s a true free flow of commerce.
Iran was/is notorious for for refusing vessel passage too.
You’re delusional
Because Iran was nice and didn’t threat or mine the Strait?
Yeah that’s a true free flow of commerce.
Iran was/is notorious for for refusing vessel passage too.
You’re delusional
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