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Let the Big Companies Leave the Red States
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:01 pm
We’ll do just fine, probably better, after they leave because the money will be spread around to different businesses. Here’s an article about what happened when a Wal-Mart shut down in Edna, TX (I’m not linking the NYT article that is referenced in this article so that they don’t get clicks):
Local officials also worried about harm to the city's sales tax base.
“Walmart was one of the highest sales tax generators in Edna and opened at 1002 N. Wells St. in 1982.
Despite the July 2018 closure, sales tax revenue in the city went up that year. The end-of-year total amounted to $1,227,844, up from 2017's sales tax revenue, which was $1,069,718.
Although down from last year, the current sales tax revenue this year is also higher than 2017's figure. That figure for 2019 is $1,150,286.”
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Local officials also worried about harm to the city's sales tax base.
“Walmart was one of the highest sales tax generators in Edna and opened at 1002 N. Wells St. in 1982.
Despite the July 2018 closure, sales tax revenue in the city went up that year. The end-of-year total amounted to $1,227,844, up from 2017's sales tax revenue, which was $1,069,718.
Although down from last year, the current sales tax revenue this year is also higher than 2017's figure. That figure for 2019 is $1,150,286.”
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:02 pm to Tigerhalen
I agree. Let big corporations leave. We need local businesses far more than we need multi-national corporations.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:12 pm to Tigerhalen
Edna has a population of just under 6,000. Not sure that is the model for economic decisions.
And are you going to get your gas from mom and pop suppliers? Take flights on mom and pop airlines?
There needs to be push back not hollow threats.
Big corps (like airlines) usually get a public subsidy to fly out of an airport. Threaten those subsidies. Not to mention sports leagues like the NFL and MLB.
Get shareholder revolts going.
And are you going to get your gas from mom and pop suppliers? Take flights on mom and pop airlines?
There needs to be push back not hollow threats.
Big corps (like airlines) usually get a public subsidy to fly out of an airport. Threaten those subsidies. Not to mention sports leagues like the NFL and MLB.
Get shareholder revolts going.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:13 pm to Tigerhalen
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Physically Remove Big Companies from Red States
FIFY
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:14 pm to Tigerhalen
The transformation is complete.
Democrats are now the party of Big Corp.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:16 pm to Tigerhalen
Sorry.You don't want that
Big corporations fuel the economy,create jobs,tax revenue and improves real estate values.
Delta is the biggest employer in Georgia.What happens to those jobs if the leave? The taxes and fees generated.
Big corporations fuel the economy,create jobs,tax revenue and improves real estate values.
Delta is the biggest employer in Georgia.What happens to those jobs if the leave? The taxes and fees generated.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:20 pm to Tigerhalen
Tax the hello out of them first. Take away all subsidies. Because where will they move to? Blue states are already doing that. Let them commit corporate suicide.
What a great business model, alienate the people that buy your stuff.
What a great business model, alienate the people that buy your stuff.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:24 pm to BigJim
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And are you going to get your gas from mom and pop suppliers? Take flights on mom and pop airlines?
There are plenty of small gas distributors around, but I’m talking about the companies that participated in Zoom meeting this weekend, and I don’t recall seeing any gas companies as participants.
On the subject of planes, I actually heard this morning that small jet owners, like10 to 12-seat planes, are charging people $200-$300 a seat for plane trips. It apparently is very popular.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:26 pm to RD Dawg
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Delta is the biggest employer in Georgia.What happens to those jobs if the leave? The taxes and fees generated.
I’m talking about the ones who are discussing divesting. I get your point about Delta, but Georgia would survive without them. It would hurt for awhile, but Georgia would survive.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:27 pm to RD Dawg
Yeah well, these companies tend to locate in red states because of low taxes. They also suck down a lot of tax money themselves in subsidies and other sweeteners.
They can't be allowed to dictate politics. If you allow that, you effectively have no voice. You will just do what your local big corp tells you which is why our economy is increasingly dominated by giant global monopolies and why China will soon dominate global politics.
Demand will remain. Others will rise to supply.
They can't be allowed to dictate politics. If you allow that, you effectively have no voice. You will just do what your local big corp tells you which is why our economy is increasingly dominated by giant global monopolies and why China will soon dominate global politics.
Demand will remain. Others will rise to supply.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:32 pm to AUCom96
Georgia needs to pass a state law that all of the banks, financial institutions, insurance companies etc that participated on that call are not allowed to require an ID for anything. Attorney Generals office manages it. Not local DA’s. Offenders get to go to jail
Walk into a bank. No id needed. Doctors office. No ID needed.
Let them deal with the overwhelming amount of fraud and theft that would result.
Walk into a bank. No id needed. Doctors office. No ID needed.
Let them deal with the overwhelming amount of fraud and theft that would result.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:41 pm to AUCom96
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Yeah well, these companies tend to locate in red states because of low taxes. They also suck down a lot of tax money themselves in subsidies and other sweeteners
By any metric Coke and Delta along with Georgia Pacific,MCB,Home Depot and Porche NA are a net positive for the state and metro Atlanta.
An argument could perhaps be made against the movie industry and subsidies but its the exception.
Look at what the Kia plant did for the area around West Point and subsequent businesses that were created around the area.
Look at what the BMW plant did for Greenville. There's no substitute for what private corporations and capitalism does for communities especially in the South.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:42 pm to Tigerhalen
When a goods provider like WalMart leaves, there (assuming the population hasn't left) is still a demand, and others can rise up and fill that demand.
The issue is big businesses provide big salaries to their headquarters employees. Who spend that money in their communities. The headquarters move, those jobs move as well.
The issue is big businesses provide big salaries to their headquarters employees. Who spend that money in their communities. The headquarters move, those jobs move as well.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:51 pm to Tigerhalen
Sounds like it’s time for Georgia to raise taxes on the big corporations. Make then walk the walk or pay more taxes.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:54 pm to AUCom96
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They can't be allowed to dictate politics
Who said they can or will?
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You will just do what your local big corp tells you which is why our economy is increasingly dominated by giant global monopolies and why China will soon dominate global politics.
Wow.I think you're getting WAY ahead of yourself.
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Demand will remain. Others will rise to supply.
Yea,good luck with starting an airline from scratch that employees 30,000 people with mostly good paying jobs and the tax base it creates.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:57 pm to Tigerhalen
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Let the Big Companies Leave the Red States
I agree with this. If they want to hitch their wagons to Marxists thinking they will be eaten last, have at it. I hope they all get exactly what is coming to them. Hopefully it will create a market opening for conservatives to create alternative companies in the red states that will be more competitive not dealing with awful taxes and regulations.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:05 pm to RD Dawg
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Sorry.You don't want that Big corporations fuel the economy,create jobs,tax revenue and improves real estate values. Delta is the biggest employer in Georgia.What happens to those jobs if the leave? The taxes and fees generated
Aaron Tippen has a song you should listen to about standing up for your self and beliefs.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:05 pm to RD Dawg
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Yea,good luck with starting an airline from scratch that employees 30,000 people with mostly good paying jobs and the tax base it creates.
I agree with about 67.3% of the point you are making here, but I think there's a big difference between a huge plant in a small town and a huge plant in a big town like ATL. I don't think the comparison is helpful.
Delta, even if they move their HQ somewhere else, which would move a lot of office jobs, wouldn't mean they stop flying in and out of Hartsfield. All of those jobs would still exist. Unless Delta is dumb enough to give up the goldmine they have by being the #1 connector in the #1 passenger airport in the world, and want to just simply not fly in and out of ATL anymore. That would be suicide.
In other words, Delta moving their HQ to [wherever] wouldn't have much of an impact on the GA economy. The GA economy is pretty damn big.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:07 pm to RebelExpress38
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Hopefully it will create a market opening for conservatives to create alternative companies in the red states that will be more competitive not dealing with awful taxes and regulations.
So we raise taxes on corps, they all leave, then we lower taxes? Wouldn't the big corps just come back?
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:26 pm to deeprig9
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Delta, even if they move their HQ somewhere else, which would move a lot of office jobs, wouldn't mean they stop flying in and out of Hartsfield. All of those jobs would still exist. Unless Delta is dumb enough to give up the goldmine they have by being the #1 connector in the #1 passenger airport in the world,
Point taken and Delta employees leaving is probably not the best example because Delta is obviously tied at the hip with Hartsfield but even the HQ leaving is not a trend that needs to be started.
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