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Legal Recourse for Employer Vaccine Requirement

Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:56 am
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1541 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:56 am
What legal recourse do every day employees have in the event of a Employer forced vaccination?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:58 am to
None.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:58 am to
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What legal recourse do every day employees have in the event of a Employer forced vaccination?


I would probably seek out an attorney, there could be religious exemptions or even medical exemptions. It might not be easy and you might be at war with your employer the whole time.

Think about seeking new employment if you are not getting what you want.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20252 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:58 am to
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What legal recourse do every day employees have in the event of a Employer forced vaccination?



Depends on your state laws or if you are contracted and what the contract says. If you are not contracted and in an “at will” work state, probably the only recourse you have is quitting. That’s a somewhat educated guess.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80332 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:59 am to
That sweet form berrycajun posted on the OT yesterday. Ironclad and absolutely will not lead to any repercussions
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:59 am to
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there could be religious exemptions or even medical exemptions. It might not be easy and you might be at war with your employer the whole time.


None of that is relevant if you have a private employer.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1541 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:59 am to
It seems to be that the employer can ask if you are vaccinated without violating Hippa rules, but needs your permission to get the actual record from your healthcare provider. My strategy is to just claim I am transvaccinated.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17490 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:00 am to
Take them to court.

From another post:
quote:

So he makes government prove scientifically that COVID is a pandemic, not just the flu.

The science fell on the side of COVID is just the same as the flu.

Government has to treat it the same as the flu.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:01 am to
quote:

It seems to be that the employer can ask if you are vaccinated without violating Hippa rules


No HIPPA implication there.

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but needs your permission to get the actual record from your healthcare provider.


It’s your healthcare provider that needs your permission to release the records. Your employer may collect the form, but you are releasing your provider.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:02 am to
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Take them to court.


Unless he’s got a contract, on what grounds?
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
11397 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:03 am to
Just tell them my body my choice - and just go to work like normal - make them carry you out
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1541 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:05 am to
Also, I don't see what legal right they have to mandate a "vaccine" that is not only not fda approved, but also doesn't prevent infections or transmission. What exactly is the end game for the employer?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17490 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:06 am to
Employment laws?
quote:

Discrimination and Harassment at Your Job


Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30100 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:07 am to
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Legal Recourse for Employer Vaccine Requirement


there is none, they already violated those constitutional rights long ago with piss tests to work at dollar general etc. under the excuse some jobs like driving trucks and working around hazardous materials are safety issues so protecting the many out weighs your rights being taken away

the same precedent allows them to make up any BS requirements they want and it gets rubber stamped by the courts
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8820 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:08 am to
I am a raging opponent of any employer mandates, but there isn't anything you can do.

Walmart, Tyson, Google, Apple. If the big boys are the first, they've gotten legal assurances.

My recommendation to anyone is to play it easy at first, talk to your boss and HR about your reasons and work for an exception. Don't go crazy until they make you.

And remember, they can still fire you even if you get the shot. So don't mortgage your conscience on a job.

Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:08 am to
Given that this is an experimental drug that is still in "Emergency Use" phase, it seems like someone could file an OSHA complaint.

Your employer is forcing you to take a drug where the side effects (long-term AND short-term) are not known AND the manufacturers have full f*cking immunity from all liability.

The better question is are the employers requiring these "vaccines" subjecting themselves to untold and unlimited liability if they force their employees to get the virus and they die or have severe reactions (side effects) as a result? I do not believe that Congress gave these employers the same unlimited immunity that it gave themselves and the drug manufacturers. It sure does sound like they will be liable in making this experimental drug a condition to come back to work. There is ONE GUARANTEE -- THERE WILL BE THOUSANDS OF LAWSUITS.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:09 am to
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Employment laws?


Not going to help you in an at-will state.
Posted by Clarence_Beeks
Houston, TX
Member since Mar 2021
11 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:09 am to
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Also, I don't see what legal right they have to mandate a "vaccine" that is not only not fda approved, but also doesn't prevent infections or transmission. What exactly is the end game for the employer?


It is very effective at preventing severe illness and death. That's the endgame for employers. Continue to make money, have people in the office, while significantly reducing their chances of severe illness and death.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26583 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:09 am to
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Your employer is forcing you to take a drug where the side effects (long-term AND short-term) are not known AND the manufacturers have full f*cking immunity from all liability.



No they aren’t forcing you to do anything. You can leave. Your employer can make the vaccine a condition of your employment.
Posted by RoosterCogburn585
Member since Aug 2011
1541 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:10 am to
So let's say they ask, I say yes I'm vaccinated. That's the end right?
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