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Legal Recourse for Employer Vaccine Requirement
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:56 am
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:56 am
What legal recourse do every day employees have in the event of a Employer forced vaccination?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:58 am to RoosterCogburn585
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What legal recourse do every day employees have in the event of a Employer forced vaccination?
I would probably seek out an attorney, there could be religious exemptions or even medical exemptions. It might not be easy and you might be at war with your employer the whole time.
Think about seeking new employment if you are not getting what you want.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:58 am to RoosterCogburn585
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What legal recourse do every day employees have in the event of a Employer forced vaccination?
Depends on your state laws or if you are contracted and what the contract says. If you are not contracted and in an “at will” work state, probably the only recourse you have is quitting. That’s a somewhat educated guess.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:59 am to RoosterCogburn585
That sweet form berrycajun posted on the OT yesterday. Ironclad and absolutely will not lead to any repercussions
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:59 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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there could be religious exemptions or even medical exemptions. It might not be easy and you might be at war with your employer the whole time.
None of that is relevant if you have a private employer.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:59 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
It seems to be that the employer can ask if you are vaccinated without violating Hippa rules, but needs your permission to get the actual record from your healthcare provider. My strategy is to just claim I am transvaccinated.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:00 am to RoosterCogburn585
Take them to court.
From another post:
From another post:
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So he makes government prove scientifically that COVID is a pandemic, not just the flu.
The science fell on the side of COVID is just the same as the flu.
Government has to treat it the same as the flu.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:01 am to RoosterCogburn585
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It seems to be that the employer can ask if you are vaccinated without violating Hippa rules
No HIPPA implication there.
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but needs your permission to get the actual record from your healthcare provider.
It’s your healthcare provider that needs your permission to release the records. Your employer may collect the form, but you are releasing your provider.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:02 am to BestBanker
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Take them to court.
Unless he’s got a contract, on what grounds?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:03 am to Crimson1st
Just tell them my body my choice - and just go to work like normal - make them carry you out
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:05 am to Indefatigable
Also, I don't see what legal right they have to mandate a "vaccine" that is not only not fda approved, but also doesn't prevent infections or transmission. What exactly is the end game for the employer?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:06 am to Indefatigable
Employment laws?
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Discrimination and Harassment at Your Job
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:07 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Legal Recourse for Employer Vaccine Requirement
there is none, they already violated those constitutional rights long ago with piss tests to work at dollar general etc. under the excuse some jobs like driving trucks and working around hazardous materials are safety issues so protecting the many out weighs your rights being taken away
the same precedent allows them to make up any BS requirements they want and it gets rubber stamped by the courts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:08 am to RoosterCogburn585
I am a raging opponent of any employer mandates, but there isn't anything you can do.
Walmart, Tyson, Google, Apple. If the big boys are the first, they've gotten legal assurances.
My recommendation to anyone is to play it easy at first, talk to your boss and HR about your reasons and work for an exception. Don't go crazy until they make you.
And remember, they can still fire you even if you get the shot. So don't mortgage your conscience on a job.
Walmart, Tyson, Google, Apple. If the big boys are the first, they've gotten legal assurances.
My recommendation to anyone is to play it easy at first, talk to your boss and HR about your reasons and work for an exception. Don't go crazy until they make you.
And remember, they can still fire you even if you get the shot. So don't mortgage your conscience on a job.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:08 am to Indefatigable
Given that this is an experimental drug that is still in "Emergency Use" phase, it seems like someone could file an OSHA complaint.
Your employer is forcing you to take a drug where the side effects (long-term AND short-term) are not known AND the manufacturers have full f*cking immunity from all liability.
The better question is are the employers requiring these "vaccines" subjecting themselves to untold and unlimited liability if they force their employees to get the virus and they die or have severe reactions (side effects) as a result? I do not believe that Congress gave these employers the same unlimited immunity that it gave themselves and the drug manufacturers. It sure does sound like they will be liable in making this experimental drug a condition to come back to work. There is ONE GUARANTEE -- THERE WILL BE THOUSANDS OF LAWSUITS.
Your employer is forcing you to take a drug where the side effects (long-term AND short-term) are not known AND the manufacturers have full f*cking immunity from all liability.
The better question is are the employers requiring these "vaccines" subjecting themselves to untold and unlimited liability if they force their employees to get the virus and they die or have severe reactions (side effects) as a result? I do not believe that Congress gave these employers the same unlimited immunity that it gave themselves and the drug manufacturers. It sure does sound like they will be liable in making this experimental drug a condition to come back to work. There is ONE GUARANTEE -- THERE WILL BE THOUSANDS OF LAWSUITS.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:09 am to BestBanker
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Employment laws?
Not going to help you in an at-will state.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:09 am to RoosterCogburn585
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Also, I don't see what legal right they have to mandate a "vaccine" that is not only not fda approved, but also doesn't prevent infections or transmission. What exactly is the end game for the employer?
It is very effective at preventing severe illness and death. That's the endgame for employers. Continue to make money, have people in the office, while significantly reducing their chances of severe illness and death.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:09 am to MMauler
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Your employer is forcing you to take a drug where the side effects (long-term AND short-term) are not known AND the manufacturers have full f*cking immunity from all liability.
No they aren’t forcing you to do anything. You can leave. Your employer can make the vaccine a condition of your employment.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:10 am to Indefatigable
So let's say they ask, I say yes I'm vaccinated. That's the end right?
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