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Leftists, in your opposition to Tariffs…

Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:18 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15908 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:18 am
Let’s consolidate this in one thread.

In your opposition to tariffs, thus reducing revenue, you ARE for the democrats surrendering their request for trillions more in spending and voting for their own CR passed during the Biden era to reopen the government.

Correct?


My my my my my… all the downvotes with a severe lack of response.


If you have extreme difficulty in answering and justifying it….. maaaaaaaybe it’s time to reevaluate your stance. Hmmmm?
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:41 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292686 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:22 am to
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Leftists, in your opposition to Tariffs…

quote:


As someone who strongly opposed disastrous unfettered free trade deals with China, Mexico and other low-wage countries, I understand that we need trade policies that benefit American workers, not just large corporations. Targeted tariffs can be a powerful tool to stop corporations from outsourcing American jobs. They can help level the playing field for American autoworkers or steelworkers to compete fairly against companies who have moved production to countries where they can pay starvation wages.


Bernie Sanders.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92296 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:23 am to
40tril in debt - Conservatives
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15908 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:25 am to
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40tril in debt - Conservatives


You are absolutely free to answer. Cmon. You can do it.

And this response when democrats are wanting to reduce revenue and dump on more debt.

Cmon fiscal hawks! Yea or nay?
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:26 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92296 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:32 am to
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You are absolutely free to answer. Cmon. You can do it.


Free to answer what? I want tariffs on everytbing

It was a response to staunch conservative Rogerthecuxker whose conservative policies have gotten us 40tril in debt
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15908 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:36 am to
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whose conservative policies have gotten us 40tril in debt


Has it really? All approximately 40 trillion? That’s the sole driver?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92296 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Has it really?


Are we 40tril in debt? Have any "conservatives" done anything to stop it?

All they do is cry about it like Roger
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67174 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:40 am to
Opposition to tariffs is not really a “leftist” position.
Some folks automatically tag any opposition to Trump with the term “leftist”, and that’s not the case at all…
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5336 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:42 am to
You still with this same supposedly “gotcha” shite… Congress should not bail Trump out for making a mess of this situation
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15908 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:43 am to
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Are we 40tril in debt? Have any "conservatives" done anything to stop it?


Well we do have a government shutdown right now to prevent democrats from trying to spend trillions that was just cut earlier this year by conservatives. They want more debt and then want to blame the president for it. And the lemmings will regurgitate that claim.

That’s a plus. Isn’t it?
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:44 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62413 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:44 am to
quote:

conservative policies have gotten us 40tril in debt


"it's all conservative's fault"

2016 -584,650
2017 -665,450
2018 -779,074
2019 -983,588
2020 -3,132,456 <-- and trump wanted more spending
2021 -2,775,350
2022 -1,375,920
2023 -1,693,725
2024 -1,859,358
2025 estimate -1,781,015

Tell us what years were conservative policies enacted.
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:55 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62413 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:46 am to
quote:

trillions that was just cut earlier this year by conservatives
No. MAGA-GOPE are outspending Biden.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15908 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Opposition to tariffs is not really a “leftist” position. Some folks automatically tag any opposition to Trump with the term “leftist”, and that’s not the case at all…


Well we will count that as a dodge. If you cannot answer and defend the actual OP question… it’s time for some reflection isn’t it?
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 8:47 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15908 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:50 am to
quote:

You still with this same supposedly “gotcha” shite… Congress should not bail Trump out for making a mess of this situation


You are counted as a no. Right? As in we should eliminate tariffs and revenue.. and increase spending by trillions. All by holding the government hostage.

And what mess Trump created? He didn’t decide to force policy by government shutdown. Right? The current CR was voted Yea on by democrats 13 times before. Right?

So what mess Trump created?
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
542 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:53 am to
I’d prefer they take it out of the $5T in corp tax cuts they just passed vs taking away benefits from lower income American people
This post was edited on 11/6/25 at 9:20 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463655 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:54 am to
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In your opposition to tariffs, thus reducing revenue, you ARE for the democrats surrendering their request for trillions more in spending and voting for their own CR passed during the Biden era to reopen the government.


You realize Scott Bessent said yesterday tariffs were not intended for revenue generation or replacing income taxes, right? Is he a "leftist"?

LINK

quote:

Asked about comments by Trump and himself touting the amount of revenue being generated, Bessent told reporters the duties being collected were "coincident" and amounted to a "shrinking ice cube" that would generate less tax income over time.

As that happened, however, increased domestic manufacturing spurred by higher import costs would generate more revenue from income tax, resulting in a balanced result, he said.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
16865 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:55 am to
Leftists love taxes yet hate tariffs. I wonder if that’s because OMB?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62413 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:56 am to
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You realize Scott Bessent said yesterday tariffs were not intended for revenue generation or replacing income taxes, right?
Give it 24 hours. It'll change.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10135 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:58 am to
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Has it really? All approximately 40 trillion? That’s the sole driver?


You're asking a guy who everyone here knows is the biggest sycophantic clown on the board to do some critical thinking.

Next you'll be asking him whether the problems he's citing were the result of actual conservative policies or politicians who called themselves conservative NOT following conservative policies.

And that level of differentiation will cause his tiny brain to explode.

You beter stop before it's too late.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15908 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 8:59 am to
quote:

You realize Scott Bessent said yesterday tariffs were not intended for revenue generation or replacing income taxes, right? Is he a "leftist"?


Does it generate revenue or not. Enough of the faux intellectual drivel. Does it produce government revenue or not? Yes. No. Two choices.

And feel free to answer the OP question without some random dissertation. Short and simple.
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