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re: Left is so mad at Trump calling out the alt left

Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:28 pm to
Trump melting again was the best today
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23907 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:29 pm to
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Wait...BamaAlt is a woman?

This makes more sense now...



Dude.... she bleeding all over this board. Trump broke her, all she can spew is Nazzzzziiiii
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
82301 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:30 pm to
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terrorism b/c that has special language and it's not clear yet 


Right in the button.

Terrorist acts are pre-planned and orchestrated to achieve a political objective.

We need more facts here but so far it looks like this guy snapped when a rock got tossed at his car.

That doesn't fit the definition of terrorism.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476468 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:30 pm to
i have to go buy some groceries but i'll be back. i assume Bama has done the "quietly leave" move

Bama, i'd LOVE to have you on my podcast to have a live conversation about this
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14067 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:31 pm to
I wonder how Shaun King hasn't died of high blood pressure or an aneurysm. That dude has been on a perpetual melt for years.

His Twitter for the luls
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21631 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:31 pm to
MSNBC's Chuch Todd: Trump is channeling Sean Hannity.
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Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102312 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:31 pm to
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do you admit or deny that ANTIFA has used violence against non-Nazi, non-violent opponents to threaten and censor their speech?


He can't admit that because then the basis of his entire argument in this thread goes out the window. He's painted Antifa as a peaceful and noble Anti Nazi crusade. To admit that Antifa has carried out violence against other groups destroys that argument that Antifa never could have played a role in the escalation of violence over the weekend.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:31 pm to
I admire your desire to engage two of the most partisan folks on the board but I don't understand it.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2984 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:31 pm to
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Stop equating the two. One group protests fascism, the other protests Blacks and Jews and Catholics and wants to kill them.



This is also big time LOL.

Antifa protests fascism? They're the biggest fascists in this country.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476468 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:32 pm to
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Terrorist acts are pre-planned and orchestrated to achieve a political objective.

We need more facts here but so far it looks like this guy snapped when a rock got tossed at his car.

That doesn't fit the definition of terrorism.

yeah even CNN was distancing this from the "terrorism" label b/c it has real meaning and would make it almost impossible to convict

i think i posted an article from NPR about the issues of trying to convict him of terrorism

we have to be careful with how we use words

i mean the dude is a murderer and is going to be prosecuted for murder, so it's not like he's skating on criminal prosecution
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:32 pm to
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how did he invalidate what he said yesterday by bringing up the violence of another group?

you can be against the alt-right and alt-left, especially if both are violent. there is no logical inconsistency


His problem on saturday was saying what happened by both sides was equal. Yesterday he called out the nazis.

And then today, he said well both groups are the same. And pretty much what I said yesterday was bullshite.

You are too smart not to see the problems with how that unfolded. This might play well with the base, but if that is the goal, why talk yesterday?

Here is his team behind him at the presser


They agree with me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476468 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:33 pm to
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but I don't understand it

my motto (used to be my sig quote)

My dedication to the truth is second only to my desire to crush your dreams
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:33 pm to
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Antifa protests fascism? They're the biggest fascists in this country.


Dude, their name is "antifascists" shortened.

They are anti fascists. you might not like their techniques but that is there stated goal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476468 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:34 pm to
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You are too smart not to see the problems with how that unfolded.

if you have no concept of rationality or recent history, sure

a lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of a sheep

if fricking morons want to be sheep, then i can't help them. that doesn't mean that from an objective, rational perspective, he invalidated anything
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41298 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:34 pm to
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Bama, i'd LOVE to have you on my podcast to have a live conversation about this


Oh my. I'd pay money for this
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:34 pm to
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They are anti fascists. you might not like their techniques but that is there stated goal.


The problem is that they consider anyone who voted for Trump to be a fascist

Sickening that you are white knighting for them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476468 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:34 pm to
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Oh my. I'd pay money for this

i have another liberal poster on stand by but that poster is not nearly as leftist as Bama
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14067 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:35 pm to
Antifa is a terrorist group. Try again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476468 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:35 pm to
if we want to call the Alt-Right Nazis, then ANTIFA = Communists

both groups are authoritarian, violent, trash

the reason why i qualify calling the Alt Right Nazis is b/c they're closer to attention whores than actual Nazis but want SO BAD to be called Nazis
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27759 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 4:37 pm to
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Fascism /'fæ??z?m/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce, that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe
quote:

They are anti fascists. you might not like their techniques but that is there stated goal.

Their goal has been forcible suppression of the opposition and that is exactly what is written in the textbook definition of what a facist is.
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