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re: Lawyers present Presidential pardon to Tina Peters's jailers. Colorado: "So?"
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:38 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:38 pm to NC_Tigah
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As pertinent to federal elections?
Why do you keep bringing up this irrelevant diversion?
Hell, I don't think we had federal laws for elections when the country formed. I believe those came after that Civil War.
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:38 pm to BBONDS25
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He hasn’t. He is working his way through the process. Asking then demanding then threatening. Next will be coercing.
Time will tell. You might be right, but this sure seems to be haphazard and toothless so far. To the outsider it seem to follow the President's whims on social media.
OTOH, Trump has accomplished much more than I have and negotiated for a living.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:39 pm to JimEverett
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What has he or his Administration done besides issuing a pardon?
As I stated: He has asked. Then he demanded. Now he is threatening. Next step is coercion.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:45 pm to BBONDS25
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As I stated: He has asked. Then he demanded. Now he is threatening. Next step is coercion.
Yeah, maybe I missed it, I don't know what he has asked, demanded, or threatened. I am genuinely confused by this thread - like I am missing some big piece of information.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:46 pm to BBONDS25
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Next step is coercion.
He doesn't have any bullets in the magazine
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:48 pm to JimEverett
quote:Bonds thinks that Trump is somehow going to cut-off all federal funds to the State of Colorado, in order to coerce the state government to free a convicted felon.quote:Yeah, maybe I missed it, I don't know what he has asked, demanded, or threatened. I am genuinely confused by this thread - like I am missing some big piece of information.
As I stated: He has asked. Then he demanded. Now he is threatening. Next step is coercion.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:53 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
Has the Administration actually asked/demanded/threatened Colorado to release Peters?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:55 pm to BBONDS25
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Now he is threatening.
I think the President blew through the threatening/tantrum stage in August::
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:55 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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Bonds thinks that Trump is somehow going to cut-off all federal funds to the State of Colorado, in order to coerce the state government to free a convicted felon.
Federal funds make up 30 percent of the state’s budget. Trump has already cut a lot of federal funds. He can just keep slashing. Colorado state government is already melting over it.
Colorado state gov officially stating OMB for cutting funds
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:56 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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tantrum stage
Tantrum? Pathetic. Demanding a political prisoner be released is not a tantrum. Your response to it is more of a tantrum.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He doesn't have any bullets in the magazine
Wrong.
He will just keep doing what he is already doing. Perhaps a bit more aggressively.
Throw in a little DOJ enforcement of drug laws….she will be pardoned.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:58 pm to JimEverett
quote:As far as withholding funds, I think that Trump is still at the "implied threat" stage of the process.
Has the Administration actually asked/demanded/threatened Colorado to release Peters?
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:00 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Thanks - that was the info I was missing.
So the idea some have is that this pardon is a sign that Trump is going to the "harsh measures" stage.
So the idea some have is that this pardon is a sign that Trump is going to the "harsh measures" stage.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:00 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:01 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Politically, it is an interesting question.
Throw in a little DOJ enforcement of drug laws….she will be pardoned.
Will all governors (regardless of party) unite, in defiance of (anyone in) Washington taking such a major step contrary to our Constitution and federal system, or will the GOP governors remain silent in support of Trump?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:02 pm to JimEverett
quote:I don't see it that way.
So the idea some have is that this pardon is a sign that Trump is going to the "harsh measures" stage.
The pardon is just political cover for some potential "harsh measures" in the future.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Your characterization notwithstanding, I raise the issue because sometimes when folks see things as black and white, there are unappreciated shades of grey.
Why do you keep bringing up this irrelevant diversion?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:07 pm to BBONDS25
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Tantrum? Pathetic. Demanding a political prisoner be released is not a tantrum. Your response to it is more of a tantrum.
Do it "RIGHT NOW!!!" knowing you're not in a position to make any demands seems to be the very definition of a tantrum. Particularly when followed by a hollow threat with THREE exclamation marks.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:12 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Do it "RIGHT NOW!!!" knowing you're not in a position to make any demands seems to be the very definition of a tantrum.
Melting over a tweet is the tantrum. And he is in a position to make demands. They are already whining about the federal funding cuts mean ole orange man has made.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:16 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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Will all governors (regardless of party) unite, in defiance of (anyone in) Washington taking such a major step contrary to our Constitution and federal system, or will the GOP governors remain silent in support of Trump?
I wish they and you were as concerned about the 8th Amendment as you are with federal laws being enforced.
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