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re: Lawyers present Presidential pardon to Tina Peters's jailers. Colorado: "So?"
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:19 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:19 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Well, I have already said that I think the sentence is probably disproportionate to the offense.
Will all governors (regardless of party) unite, in defiance of (anyone in) Washington taking such a major step contrary to our Constitution and federal system, or will the GOP governors remain silent in support of Trump?quote:
I wish they ... were ... concerned about the 8th Amendment
Whether it rises to the level of a violation of the 8th (cruel and unusual punishments) is a different question ... and one that I assume competent counsel has raised on appeal on Peters' behalf.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 1:21 pm
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:21 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
Why did you change your username?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:24 pm to BBONDS25
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Melting over a tweet is the tantrum.
I'm not melting. I'm trying to understand the timeline.
You said: "Now he is threatening." The tweet shows that THEN he was threatening...in August.
I was giving credence to your theory that this is part of the Art of the Deal, but wasn't following your timeline.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:26 pm to NC_Tigah
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sometimes when folks see things as black and white
That's its own straw man
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there are unappreciated shades of grey.
Whatever grey exists, the irrelevant diversion ain't in it
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:40 pm to BBONDS25
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They are already whining about the federal funding cuts mean ole orange man has made.
I saw that Colorado had joined other states in whining about education cuts. Has he singled out Colorado or have other states incarcerated Peters?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:49 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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I saw that Colorado had joined other states in whining about education cuts. Has he singled out Colorado or have other states incarcerated Peters?
The point flew way over your head. Your snide question is hilarious considering it’s the wrong one.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:14 pm to BBONDS25
I personally think that Trump's statements and actions in regards to Peters is nothing more than a midterm campaign strategy to increase turnout
If I'm right and this is just a campaign strategy this would work pretty good press conferences, news coverage, Etc
If I'm wrong, this isn't a terrible legit strategy; they can cite the word animus over and over like a pellet and lower courts have done in regards to Trump to lend to the idea that he is racist
quote:why doesn't the doj Civil Rights division launch an investigation into Peter's sentence under the 8th Amendment?
I wish they and you were as concerned about the 8th Amendment as you are with federal laws being enforced.
If I'm right and this is just a campaign strategy this would work pretty good press conferences, news coverage, Etc
If I'm wrong, this isn't a terrible legit strategy; they can cite the word animus over and over like a pellet and lower courts have done in regards to Trump to lend to the idea that he is racist
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:16 pm to BBONDS25
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The point flew way over your head. Your snide question is hilarious considering it’s the wrong one
Mostly, I come to the PoliBoard to better understand certain things. The pardon and the behavior of the lawyers for Peters didn't make sense to me.
Your theory seems to be that the President knows what he's doing and that this is all part of a plan to free Peters. Some of the data seems to contradict your theory. When I point out those seeming contradictions, you just turn to insult...which is fine, it just makes the conversation pointless from my perspective.
Cheers
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Interesting the majority of those posters no longer post here. Or at least I’ve not noticed them.
What happened to that momentoftruth guy? He gave some quality insight into the mindset of a GWOT era deployed service member.
What happened to that momentoftruth guy? He gave some quality insight into the mindset of a GWOT era deployed service member.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:28 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Some of the data seems to contradict your theory.
What data? You didn’t even read the link I posted, did you?
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When I point out those seeming contradictions, you just turn to insult...which is fine,
Wrong. You made a snide comment about other states jailing Peters. I called you out for it. Saying the point flew over your head isn’t an insult. It’s clearly true. Read the link I posted. That’s the point. Trump will do more of that.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:32 pm to I20goon
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why doesn't the doj Civil Rights division launch an investigation into Peter's sentence under the 8th Amendment?
That's a good idea, but supposedly the entire Peters case has been under review since early March:
Denver Post, 3/5/25, DOJ Reviews Peters Case
"The U.S. Department of Justice will review Colorado’s prosecution of former Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters in a search for “abuses of the criminal justice process,” federal attorneys wrote in a court filing this week.
The filing has no immediate effect on Peters’ conviction, but it shows explicit federal interest in a state criminal case involving one of the most prominent supporters of President Donald Trump’s debunked 2020 election conspiracies. The filing also cites his Inauguration Day executive order aimed at “ending the weaponization of the federal government.”
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:40 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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debunked 2020 election conspiracies.
these “journalists” just can’t help themselves. This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:58 pm to BBONDS25
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these “journalists” just can’t help themselves.
we're about to enter 2026 with still zero victories for team trump in proving his tantrum induce election fraud claims.
ironic post in a thread about a maga serving 9 years for tampering with election data
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:01 pm to beaux duke
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ironic post in a thread about a maga serving 9 years for tampering with election data
Who "saved" data purportedly showing voter fraud that...checks notes....found nothing illegal.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:02 pm to beaux duke
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we're about to enter 2026 with still zero victories for team trump in proving his tantrum induce election fraud claims.
which specific court cases considered the merits and lost? quote:
ironic post in a thread about a maga serving 9 years for tampering with election data
That isn’t irony. Look it up. Also…she is serving 9 years for accessing and distributing election data. She didn’t manipulate or tamper with it. Of course, you thought she shopped it. You’re clearly ignorant to the facts so it doesn’t surprise me you post such dumb stuff.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:06 pm to BBONDS25
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You’re clearly ignorant to the facts so it doesn’t surprise me you post such dumb stuff.
immediately to meltdown insults
as predictable as the sunrise
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:14 pm to beaux duke
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immediately to meltdown insults
Hes right though. You are ignorant of the facts. Not an insult, statement of fact.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:15 pm to kilo
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You are ignorant of the facts. Not an insult, statement of fact.
which facts am i missing? i'm here to learn
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:19 pm to kilo
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You are ignorant of the facts.
Where is the direct, objective evidence? 5 years later, after hundreds of lawsuits and prosecutions, I don't think any has been presented.
For a while there was a cope-based shift to pivot the argument to legal (at the time) policies like Mail in Voting and ballot harvesting. It seems now the pivot is going back to the OG Kraken, though.
Always remember Sydney Powell's arguments LINK
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Lawyers for pro-Trump attorney Sidney Powell said that “no reasonable person” would believe that her false claims and conspiracy theories about the 2020 election were “truly statements of fact.”
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“Determining whether a statement is protected involves a two-step inquiry,” Powell’s lawyers wrote in the filing in Washington federal court. “Is the statement one which can be proved true or false? And would reasonable people conclude that the statement is one of fact, in light of its phrasing, context and the circumstances surrounding its publication.”
“Analyzed under these factors ... no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact,” the lawyers argued.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:21 pm to beaux duke
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immediately to meltdown insults
Toughen up buttercup. Don’t be so sensitive. I know you are worried about the upvotes and downvotes. But maybe don’t be such a fragile flower.
You didn’t know the facts of what happened with Peters. You just ran with the talking points. Seems to be your forte. When I point it out it hurts your feelings. That’s not a me problem.
And I noticed you chose to avoid answering my question about specific cases the considered the merits. Telling.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 3:23 pm
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