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re: Lawyers present Presidential pardon to Tina Peters's jailers. Colorado: "So?"
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:53 am to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:53 am to IvoryBillMatt
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What is different NOW?
You don’t go thermo nuclear without trying less dramatic ways first. Art of the deal.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:55 am to cajunangelle
No doubt, it was an egregious sentence...unfortunately, that doesn't confer to Trump pardon powers over state convictions.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:57 am to NC_Tigah
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We there charges here separate from those involving a Federal Election?
As my post with her specific convictions stated
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No charges with a nexus of elections. All completely state-based charges related to her conduct violating non-election law of Colorado.
Article 2 references "The United States". That is a term for the federal government and has always meant that.
Just put yourself in the historical context of the time of our Constitution. Why would the President have the authority to pardon state crimes?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:58 am to IvoryBillMatt
Best idea so far is to declare her a material witness and whistle blower of the federal investigation of Colorado voting fraud.
The very fact that the dem officials threw so much at her for attempting to investigate Colorado voting fraud, indicates that they were seriously afraid of what she knew.
The very fact that the dem officials threw so much at her for attempting to investigate Colorado voting fraud, indicates that they were seriously afraid of what she knew.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:59 am to BBONDS25
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You don’t go thermo nuclear without trying less dramatic ways first.
You're not going to change our fundamental understanding of the Constitutional, eradicate states rights, and reverse centuries of precedent on their head without going thermonuclear.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:59 am to BBONDS25
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You don’t go thermo nuclear without trying less dramatic ways first. Art of the deal.
I know that you know this pardon is meaningless. It was signed by Trump on 12/5/25. What action has Trump taken that is thermo nuclear?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:02 pm to Auburn1968
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Best idea so far is to declare her a material witness
To what, exactly?
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nd whistle blower of the federal investigation of Colorado voting fraud.
I am pretty sure there is no current, legitimate DOJ investigation into "Colorado voting fraud", and arguing this incident overlapped with that would probably get some attorneys disbarred due to the inherent dishonesty in the argument.
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The very fact that the dem officials threw so much at her for attempting to investigate Colorado voting fraud, indicates that they were seriously afraid of what she knew.
You are clearly severely ignorant of the facts.
She did not "investigate Colorado voting fraud"
She did not follow the whistleblower statutes
The threat she tried to use as an excuse (Deleting the information) did not exist and did not happen
The information she stole that flowed to 2 different unauthorized third parties was made public and showed no impropriety or illegality. It showed the opposite of her and Lindell's claims.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:02 pm to Penrod
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Was she convicted in Colorado State Courts? If so, the President has no pardon power over that.
I heard that also. If I remember correctly since she was convicted by the state. I think I read that the Trump administration tried a couple of times to have it changed to a federal crime. This was the the reason they were trying to do that
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:03 pm to Auburn1968
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Best idea so far is to declare her a material witness and whistle blower of the federal investigation of Colorado voting fraud.
I agree that has a better chance. I wish they hadn't muddied the waters with a meaningless pardon.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:05 pm to Miketheseventh
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I think I read that the Trump administration tried a couple of times to have it changed to a federal crime.
They would have to indict her in federal court to do this
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:05 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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I wish they hadn't muddied the waters with a meaningless pardon.
It's only going to strengthen the disciplinary complaints if any DOJ lawyer attempts any of the various ruses being postulated on MAGA Twitter.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:07 pm to Auburn1968
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The very fact that the dem officials threw so much at her for attempting to investigate Colorado voting fraud, indicates that they were seriously afraid of what she knew.
no it doesn't. it proves colorado takes the security and integrity of its elections very seriously
people really need to stop buying into this "oh he must be over the target then" bs
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:08 pm to beaux duke
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people really need to stop buying into this "oh he must be over the target then" bs
It would be interesting to watch the Tina Peters fan club members discuss her actual behavior without all the lies and dishonest framing.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It would be interesting to watch the Tina Peters fan club members discuss her actual behavior without all the lies and dishonest framing.
let's not forget she tried to quitclaim her dying ex-husband's house to herself and got dragged to court for that too. her own daughter testified against her. she's a scumbag loon
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:26 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Some lawyer should check to see off Colorado is lenient on first time and repeat criminal offenders. If Denver tends to look the other way at criminals then this lady should not die in prison. Let her go with time served.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:30 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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I know that you know this pardon is meaningless. It was signed by Trump on 12/5/25. What action has Trump taken that is thermo nuclear?
He hasn’t. He is working his way through the process. Asking then demanding then threatening. Next will be coercing.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:30 pm to billjamin
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That picture
That's actually a poster here. Found out after he was pardoned
BigEdLSU
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That's actually a poster here. Found out after he was pardoned BigEdLSU
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Looks much as one would imagine, right down to the vapid expression.
That's actually a poster here
That last picture is just hilarious ... and I don't apologize for thinking so. I was not aware that vests came in sizes Fat, Xtra-Fat and XX-Fat.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 1:51 pm
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