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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:47 am to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:47 am to
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Seems like Kyiv has a poor defense system.


Why doesn't Putin even go to Moscow these days?
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:50 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:57 am to
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Lots of Russian strikes. I thought the Ukrainians were like the smartest people ever and invented drones


Did you hear?? The average Russian recruit only lasts like 30 minutes at the front. Ghost of Kyiv bombs them all within minutes.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 9:59 am to
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Sure they can, but thosdd Ed alliances proved to be bad. Look at WWI for instance.



Bad example for a lot of reasons. It would have happened without the alliance structure. OVB created a system of interwoven alliances only he knew how to navigate.

Europe should be in a NATO type alliance with each other. I am only concerned with what is best for America and that increasingly is not NATO (and to my point hasn't been for a while).
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:08 am to
They may not be the smartest people, but one thing is for sure, they are smarter than you.

All Hat, No cattle.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:18 am to
Putin's old KGB handbook tells him to attack residential buildings to terrorize them into submission.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42827 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:21 am to
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Bad example for a lot of reasons. It would have happened without the alliance structure. OVB created a system of interwoven alliances only he knew how to navigate.


Wrong, WWI is a perfect example of what can happen with all these alliances. WWIi also indicated how dumb alliances can be.

Germany invaded Poland. France and England declare war. Russia invaded Poland nothing.

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Europe should be in a NATO type alliance with each other. I am only concerned with what is best for America and that increasingly is not NATO (and to my point hasn't been for a while).


Nice pivot. I agree NATO needs to be re-evaluated moving forward and certainly with the goal to do what’s best for the US, but the discussion has been the overall effectiveness of NATO and whether or not it has served the US well over time.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:50 am to
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The Hit-Refinery-of-the-Day:



Ukraine reportedly hit the AVT-6 processing unit. This facility previously processed 11% of Russia's gasoline. It was previously hit in May and then again on June 25th. Those previous strikes had already taken parts of the refinery offline. I suspect that today's strike will take the whole facility offline for major repairs.

My suspicion is that part of the greater effectiveness of Ukraine's recent refinery strikes is that they are systematically taking out components that cannot easily be replaced and repaired, either because those components use Western parts that are not easily obtained, or because of intelligence about shortages. Part of this is likely due to greater accuracy from Ukrainian long-range drones.

As I'm sure CitizenK and others here can testify, refineries generally have lots of redundancies. For example, a system inside the refinery that needs one motor is designed with two motors so that one can be taken offline and repaired if necessary, while the other runs and no production is lost. In this scenario, if Ukraine destroys one motor, then, in the short term, no real loss of production occurs. When Ukraine then hits the other motor, though, production stops. Production also stops if the motor simply breaks on its own. Russia is likely facing a cascade of failures as the difficulty of importing instruments and equipment increases pressure on remaining refineries to do everything possible to deliver gasoline.

And as Ukraine repeatedly takes refineries offline, the targeting list gets easier and easier to construct.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:10 am to
Hmm ... Ukraine used a mystery weapon last night.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:12 am to
Hit most recently on June 28. Looks like there is room for more improvement.

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Slavyansk ECO is one of the largest independent refineries in southern Russia, with an annual processing capacity of up to 5.2 million tonnes of crude oil, or approximately 100,000 barrels per day. It represents an estimated 15–20% of southern Russia's refining capacity and plays an important role in supplying fuel across the region.

The refinery is co-owned by Robert Paranyants, a regional legislator from the ruling United Russia party. Investigative reporting has identified Slavyansk ECO as a supplier to a Russian fuel-trading company that was allegedly involved in petroleum supply chains used to circumvent UN sanctions on North Korea.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4729 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:20 am to
The transformer's heat signature make targeting easier. If the substation is burning, you know it's the transformer's cooling oil and you've hit the prime target. Nothing else there to burn like this. These units will not be replaced any time soon. Russians in these areas will have to get out the hurricane lamps and be extra thankful it's not winter.

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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:22 am to
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Wrong, WWI is a perfect example of what can happen with all these alliances.


You have an extremely simplistic understanding of WW1.

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Nice pivot. I agree NATO needs to be re-evaluated moving forward and certainly with the goal to do what’s best for the US, but the discussion has been the overall effectiveness of NATO and whether or not it has served the US well over time.



You call it a pivot then explain exactly why it isn't a pivot by the end of your own paragraph what a joke
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:24 am to
Weak
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:26 am to
For those of us that are 'statistically challenged', remember that Russian losses have exceeded replacements since December, 2025. Losses go down when targets go down.

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Russia is now losing troops at an estimated 8:1 ratio compared with Ukraine, according to a new CSIS analysis. The report estimates Russia has suffered about 1.4 million killed, wounded, and missing since the start of the full-scale war, including roughly 450,000 dead. It attributes the widening loss ratio to Ukraine’s extensive use of drones, along with Russian tactical shortcomings, poor coordination, corruption, and low morale.

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Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:34 am to
Rybar is reporting heavy fighting in the sloviansk direction

Translated from Russian using iPhone:

Units of the "South" group of troops liberated another settlement in the Slavic direction. On the northern flank, Piskunovka, which is west of Kriva Luka, came under the control of the Russian Armed Forces.

Althouth the guards of the 7th motorized rifle brigade have already deployed flags throughout the village, in its vicinity there is still the presence of Ukrainian formations, which occupy strongholds previously organized in the massif of chalk deposits.

Some time ago, when the Slavic direction was Seversky, the enemy was sometimes in such dugouts for several months, supplying himself with drones on Starlink. However, now the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have much more means of countering such tactics.

South of Krivaya Luka, in the forest strips between it and Kaleniki, such strongholds of Ukrainian formations have just been eliminated. This will allow us to continue to move west and expand wedging south of Seversky Donets.

Applications for the exit of Russian units almost to the outskirts of Nikolaevka have already appeared on the Internet. Nevertheless, these are very optimistic reports so far. Yes, small seepage groups and reconnaissance groups can already move towards this settlement. However, it's too early to talk about any fixations or hooks.

Fatters continue in the vicinity of the recently liberated Rai-Alexandrovka. Ukrainian formations are trying to stretch the clash in the nearest forest strips, as well as to keep the stronghold to the west of this settlement. The situation here remains difficult. It will be possible to improve it as the further offensive from Yurkovka to the north develops.

In parallel with the growth of activity on the line of contact, Russian units managed to increase the frequency of strikes on both Nikolaevka and Slavyansk-Kramatorsk agglomeration, which Ukrainian formations are now preparing for defense, saturating cities not only with personnel, but also with fortifications. In particular, on several streets of Kramatorsk, "egoza" and "tetrahedra" began to be installed right in the middle of the road.

And taking into account the campaign of strikes of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the enemy's logistics, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already started a race against time for the opportunity to attract as many forces as possible to Slavyansk and neighboring settlements of the agglomeration, since the Armed Forces of Ukraine have more and more losses in the delivery of goods and personnel, and gas stations are burning almost throughout the frontline zone.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4729 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:34 am to
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Ukraine reportedly hit the AVT-6 processing unit. This facility previously processed 11% of Russia's gasoline. It was previously hit in May and then again on June 25th. Those previous strikes had already taken parts of the refinery offline. I suspect that today's strike will take the whole facility offline for major repairs.

Now confirmed.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:50 am to
Unbelievable. But not unbelievable.
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Ukrainian services needed only 5 days to carry out an attack on the facility shown in the report, which was a "hero" of Russian television.

On June 21, Russian TV aired a report in the Vesti program. It showcased the behind-the-scenes work of the secret, strategic arms enterprise Titan-Barrikady in Volgograd.

Employees spoke on camera about unique, modern lathes and specialized machines imported LINK . from South Korea, the Czech Republic, or Italy. Journalists displayed the interiors of production halls, making it easier for Ukrainian analysts (including those from the InformNapalm group) to precisely locate key machines within the factory's structure.

And already on June 27, the SZU carried out a strike with FP-5 Flamingo cruise missiles on the facility presented in the report. Of the five missiles launched, at least three struck targets directly within the complex.

According to analyses of satellite images from July 1, it was precisely those halls containing the unique machine park that were destroyed.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4729 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:07 pm to
This on top of the border closures to Finland, Estonia and Latvia last week.

Most observers agreed that the full general mobilization will occur this year, but only after the Sept. elections. Now it is looking like next month. Elections can be cancelled for 'national emergencies', a move that hasn't escaped Trump.

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Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:18 pm to
You do realize that if Russia announces a general mobilization, Ukraine is well and truly fricked.
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