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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:28 pm to
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When Putin tells the Russian people that the West has plans to dismantle Russia

To be fair, he's only giving them half the story.

China plans to do the same. So we'll have to divide the place up. Maybe make the Urals the dividing line
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:33 pm to
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There is no scenario where Russia just goes back to selling oil and gas to Europe like nothing ever happened.

Any settlement will include aubstantial reparations. The idea that Europe will fund the war machine that threatens to destroy them is ludicrous.

Okay. You seem to be ignoring the fact that they are buying from them NOW. I guess if you can ignore that you’ll ignore when they go back to pre-war levels, and that way you’ll never be wrong.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:37 pm to
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You seem to be ignoring the fact that they are buying from them NOW

1%

Theyre buying 1% of their oil and gas from Russia.

5 years ago it was 35%.

Now it's 1%.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:44 pm to
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1%

Theyre buying 1% of their oil and gas from Russia.

5 years ago it was 35%.

So, why are they buying that 1%.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:46 pm to
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u are a caricature of yourself. When Putin tells the Russian people that the West has plans to dismantle Russia into a hundred independent states it can isolate, pit against one another, and ultimately dominate and extract their resource wealth, he is telling them the truth


More resources for USA, sounds good to me. MAGA!
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:21 pm to
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So, why are they buying that 1%.


They have a deliberate phase out plan.

The roadmap is the EU’s strategy to remove Russian oil, gas and nuclear energy imports from EU markets in a gradual and coordinated way.

A historic political agreement to phase out Russian gas imports and prepare the phase out of Russian oil was achieved on the night of 2 December 2025 between the European Parliament and the Council.

As set out in the REPowerEU Roadmap, this will end the EU’s reliance on Russian energy and improve our energy security.

Key facts
since the beginning of the war, the EU’s dependency on Russian gas has fallen from 45% of overall imports to 12% in 2025

all imports of Russian coal have been banned by sanctions

oil imports have shrunk from 27% at the beginning of 2022, to 2% with only 2 EU countries importing Russian oil

the remaining 35 billion cubic meters of Russian gas still imported to the EU annually will be out of our markets in less than 2 years

the €10 billion that the EU spends on this gas per year will no longer finance Russia nor its aggression against Ukraine

REPowerEU – phase out of Russian energy imports
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:21 pm to
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Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:37 pm to
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So, why are they buying that 1%.

Some customers are just at the end of Russian pipelines and are taking years to develop alternatives. Like building pipelines to hook into LNG networks.

1%

Most people would see a market share reduced from 35% to 1% and say: That supplier is fricked.

You look at those numbers and say: That 1% is proof that things will be right back to normal in 2 years.

That's ridiculous.

Putin gambled that the war would be over so quickly that the EU would shrug its shoulders and keep going.

He was wrong. His entire army and over 1 million men lay scattered around eastern Ukraine, while his customers have cut him off. He's perma fricked. And he has perma fricked his people for the foreseeable future.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:49 pm to
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When Putin tells the Russian people that the West has plans to dismantle Russia into a hundred independent states it can isolate, pit against one another, and ultimately dominate and extract their resource wealth, he is telling them the truth.
Maybe other countries, especially Russia's closest neighbors, would not feel that way if Putin didn't keep threatening them.
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