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Posted on 2/27/26 at 11:14 am to texag7
More riveting commentary from All Hat No Cattle
The US prevented peace when it went to war after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. That's how absurd your statement is
The US prevented peace when it went to war after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. That's how absurd your statement is
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 11:38 am to LSURussian
He wanted Zelensky to cry uncle in Feb 2022, just like he did when the Somali did him in the truck stop bathroom
Posted on 2/27/26 at 11:41 am to Coeur du Tigre
Russia may want to resurrect its empire, but Putin really stepped in the honey bucket.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 12:08 pm to doubleb
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And some in this thread argued Z was preventing peace.
The onus is on the aggressor to end a conflict in almost all situations.
That said, I do believe the Ukranians have put forth peace terms they know Russia wont accept in a disingenuous way in order to appease Trump.
They are just playing the game, and that doesn't mean they are "preventing peace" at all. If they would rather fight it out that's certainly their right, but it's also the right of the countries that support them to say they aren't going for another round on the carousel if the Ukranians aren't seriously trying to end the conflict.
Not a criticism of Ukraine at all, just an observation.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 12:19 pm to VolSquatch
I agree with your observation.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 12:28 pm to VolSquatch
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That said, I do believe the Ukranians have put forth peace terms they know Russia wont accept in a disingenuous way in order to appease Trump.
Saying it’s not a criticism doesn’t make it true.
I get what you’re saying but you're still laboring under the delusion that the Russians want peace, that the Russians want anything less than the entirety of the Ukraine and the Ukrainians wiped out. Until you understand and acknowledge this you’re not going to get why the war continues.
The Ukrainians are playing the game the way the Russians presented to to them and cannot and should not be criticized or punished for it.
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:05 pm to cypher
Tests of ballistic FP-7 missiles produced by Fire Point.
If not us, then who?
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:07 pm to Leopold
This is the longest thread in TigerDroppings history, right?
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:22 pm to cypher
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:30 pm to cypher
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Tests of ballistic FP-7 missiles produced by Fire Point.
Very nice. Reported specs list up to 200 km range and a 150 kg warhead. At that combination it seems to be a substitute for the HIMARS. But rebalancing the fuel - warhead weight ratio may extend range. Besides, these are the published specs, subject to a great deal of later, after-action adjustment.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:41 pm to VolSquatch
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Putin doesn’t want to end the war.’”
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That said, I do believe the Ukranians have put forth peace terms they know Russia wont accept in a disingenuous way in order to appease Trump.
Let me ask you this, if Putin doesn’t want the war to end, other than surrendering his country to Putin what could Z offer?
Sure Z is going through the motions because he knows Putin won’t deal unless Ukraine capitulates and gives up territory, their government, and becomes a Russian vassal state.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:43 pm to Leopold
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It should be easy to overrun Estonia in a day, two at most. Yes that is still an issue
DaFuq they will. I don't buy that crap anymore.
The Russians can't take a Ukrainian town of 26k, you think they are taking a NATO country of 1.4M? Especially while the Russians are tied down in the Ukraine?? When they couldn't take back their own town of Kursk????
The Estonians aren't going to go against the Russians alone, there will absolutely be a large number of countries coming to their aid, starting with Poland, Finland, Sweden, France, and the other two Baltic States. And I can tell you exactly how this war is going to be fought, the only concern is whether or not NATO is ready for the drone aspect, and they still have time to be so
So, no - the Russians aren't overrunning shite.
Again, I'm done giving the Russians credit. If they want to attack the Baltic States, let them. I say NATO kicks their teeth in.
As gamed out in NATO war games, the Russians COULD sweep across Lithuania from the East (Belarus) and West (Kaliningrad) and separate the Baltics from Poland by land (which is their plan that was leaked a while ago)... and the 3 countries would not fare well in drone attacks (Shaheds, down to smaller drones...)... they could be overwhelmed, with big numbers of troops, even though their militaries are better trained and possibly better equipped. All of this could happen in a day or two, and Article V takes 5 days to be invoked for NATO.
But if this happens, the Baltics would strike Moscow and St. Petersberg with missiles (NATO has given them permission to do this IMMEDIATELY in case of an invasion)... and Ukraine has proven Russian air defense is lacking...
I believe Poland has stated it would immediately jump in the fight with the Baltics, so I guess they're working out how to do that if the land route through the Siwalki Gap is controlled by the Russians.
And would Finland and Sweden jump in before Article 5 is invoked and shut down the Russian Navy in the Baltic Sea?
In the present scenario, it's assumed by Europe that Trump would say "well, who cares?" and the US would not join NATO in defending the Baltic States or Europe from Russia.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:49 pm to Leopold
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get what you’re saying but you're still laboring under the delusion that the Russians want peace,
My point is completely independent of anything Russia is doing or not doing.
Russia not being genuine about peace terms doesn't automatically make a Ukranian offer genuine. Especially given the context that both are trying to keep Trump friendly toward them.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:54 pm to doubleb
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Let me ask you this, if Putin doesn’t want the war to end, other than surrendering his country to Putin what could Z offer?
You and Leopold aren't understanding that the offer to the Russians is essentially meaningless. Ukraine wouldn't care if Russia even saw it. The audience there was Trump.
For example, Russia as the attacker will never accept any agreement that involves "let's stop fighting for 30 days while we talk". It makes no sense for them because Ukraine can prepare defenses and reroute men with no real intention of coming to a deal. It was a bunk offer from the get go and Ukraine knows that, but Trump doesn't and that's the point.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:57 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Speaking of long range, it seems eight Russian regions may join the party tonight.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 2/27/26 at 1:58 pm to VolSquatch
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My point is completely independent of anything Russia is doing or not doing.
There’s the problem. You have to consider their position is pro war and that they aren’t going to quit fighting until Ukraine is under their control.
I wouldn’t fault Z for doing nothing, but like you said he has to placate Trump.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:17 pm to doubleb
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There’s the problem. You have to consider their position is pro war and that they aren’t going to quit fighting until Ukraine is under their control.
Nothing Russia does automatically means any offer from Ukraine is in good faith.
Yes, we know Russia doesn't actually intend to negotiate. Ukraine can still put out a bunk offer.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 2:50 pm to VolSquatch
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Nothing Russia does automatically means any offer from Ukraine is in good faith.
Really, what difference does it make if Russia is going to say no to everything short of surrender.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 3:02 pm to doubleb
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Really, what difference does it make if Russia is going to say no to everything short of surrender.
Which is why I said it's not a criticism of Ukraine. They are just trying to appease Trump.
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