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Posted on 2/10/26 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 1:15 pm to
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Just reading some tea leaves, I think Russia might be exaggerating it. The motive I guess would be to build up what is ultimately a fake counter-offensive that you "repel", only it never existed at all. Seems like a very Soviet thing to do.


Yes, they may be doing just that. They are masters of propaganda, but not war.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 1:19 pm to
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Just reading some tea leaves, I think Russia might be exaggerating it. The motive I guess would be to build up what is ultimately a fake counter-offensive that you "repel", only it never existed at all. Seems like a very Soviet thing to do.


This is possible, but the Kherson gun run started out like this. Ukraine went through the Russian lines like shite through a goose in Humvees before Russia knew what hit them then a chasm opened up

Time will tell
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Leopold
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 3:19 pm to
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Either that or Russian sources are exaggerating it which I don’t know what they would have to gain by doing that.


Because the only thing that the Russians are effective at is misinformation, and this is the proof of it.

There are still people out there that think the Russians are winning, and that they are going to win this war. Let me be clear on this

The Russians are not going to win this war in a conventional sense.

Are.
Not.

But people on all sides believe this because the advantages that the exaggerations offer is a part of the larger picture where Putin and the Russians just wear everyone out and Putin, who weaponizes the diplomatic aspect of this war as much as the conventional military aspect of it, attempts to get larger and larger concessions as a result.

The Donbas is a perfect example of it - the Russians have made absolutely no strategic progress in 3 years, so they exaggerate their claims as a part of a larger effort to convince Westerners that their taking it is inevitable. So when you say "I repeat, I think we are watching the fall of the Donbas" it's not because we are watching the Russians taking control of the area - not when they are taking 30 meters a day or whatever while taking outrageous losses. It's because the Russians keep sending out maps that have a slight exaggeration to begin with, and tell everyone "See? We are taking the Donbas, now just give it to us so we can stop with all this killing." And hell., if THOSE maps are exaggerations, even only slightly, have they taken anything at all?

Of course, that's a lie, too, because if that were to happen, the Russians wouldn't see it as the culmination of all of their efforts, they would see it as a weakness to be exploited and would continue to attack deeper and deeper into the Ukraine once they have control over the Donbas, probably even sooner.

But that's why they exaggerate - it's all part of a mind game with the West.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Either that or Russian sources are exaggerating it which I don’t know what they would have to gain by doing that. Just interesting dynamic I think.


Just reading some tea leaves, I think Russia might be exaggerating it. The motive I guess would be to build up what is ultimately a fake counter-offensive that you "repel", only it never existed at all. Seems like a very Soviet thing to do.


I am seeing reports that Russian milbloggers overstated Russian gains in the last week or so and now Ukraine is on the offensive which would explain why they had to redraw their maps to the correct positions. This whole thing is fishy and just further proof that you can't trust the Russians.

On a side note, I learned what hedgehog armor for tanks is today. Which Russia invented and Ukraine has copied.



Almost 4 years of war with tanks being taken out by drones and that is the best that both sides can come up with. Can't find a picture of a UAF tank with hedgehog armor but I am sure it is just as funny looking.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 3:33 pm to
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This is possible, but the Kherson gun run started out like this.


That was the Kharkiv gun run in 2022. Kherson was a slow assault that gradually retook the city.

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Time will tell


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Now the Ukies are saying that they are on the offensive and having success.
Posted by Leopold
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 3:40 pm to
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Odd isn’t it?

Ukraine saying it’s nothing; while Russia says it’s a counterattack.


I suspect the student has become the master.....

Ukraine knows the Russians on the frontlines don't trust their own leaders and may very well be looking at the Ukrainians for more reliable information.

And if the Ukrainians are, indeed, counterattacking and not acknowledging it then the Russian front lines may not prepare themselves for it. It would be excellent disinformation on the part of the Ukrainians.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by T1gerNate
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 4:23 pm to
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So when you say "I repeat, I think we are watching the fall of the Donbas" it's not because we are watching the Russians taking control of the area - not when they are taking 30 meters a day or whatever while taking outrageous losses. It's because the Russians keep sending out maps that have a slight exaggeration to begin with, and tell everyone "See? We are taking the Donbas, now just give it to us so we can stop with all this killing." And hell., if THOSE maps are exaggerations, even only slightly, have they taken anything at all?


So in your opinion ISW, a think tank in Washington DC that is run by Frederick Kagan’s wife, is intentionally spreading Russian disinformation to demoralize NATO?
Posted by Leopold
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 4:28 pm to
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So in your opinion ISW, a think tank in Washington DC that is run by Frederick Kagan’s wife, is intentionally spreading Russian disinformation to demoralize NATO?


No.

I think we can look at the same map and disagree on context. In fact, I don't think, I know.

You keep saying that Donbass is going to fall. I don't necessarily disagree with this idea. But the questions I ask are "What's the cost and why would this matter?" So we can agree on a map but disagree with what it has to teach us.


Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 5:04 pm to
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That was the Kharkiv gun run in 2022.


Thanks, I get those Uk names jumbled up and stand corrected
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 5:51 pm to
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ur opinion ISW, a think tank in Washington DC that is run by Frederick Kagan’s wife, is intentionally spreading Russian disinformation to demoralize NATO?


Gen Jack Keane, retired is head of it. You can catch some of their analysts on Twatter. Bohnert is a good one to pay attention to.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 7:22 pm to
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So in your opinion ISW, a think tank in Washington DC that is run by Frederick Kagan’s wife, is intentionally spreading Russian disinformation to demoralize NATO?


ISW is actually telling us that Russia has been exaggerating their successes.
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:21 pm to


Anybody else have "Tarkus" by Emerson, Lake & Palmer playing in ther heads looking at this?

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:33 am to
It's safe to say this was not the Ukrainians. There would have been far more damage to car and driver if so. Just local thugs fighting for construction contracts. Peak Russia.

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The Cheka-OGPU and Rucriminal have identified the prime suspect in the bombing of a Nissan Patrol in Fryazino, Moscow Region. The victim himself identified Grigor Agekyan, a longtime subject of our publications, a local developer, crime boss, and (unsurprisingly) leader of the United Russia faction in the Shchyolkovo City District Council of Deputies.

As a reminder, on the evening of February 10, an explosive device detonated under the bottom of a Nissan Patrol in Fryazino. The driver was injured and taken to a hospital. A criminal case has been opened on the grounds of attempted murder.

According to sources, the victim, Sergei, said he crossed a deputy and developer with a criminal record, who controls much of the construction in Shchyolkovo. The conflict of interest stems from the fight to relocate residents from dilapidated housing in the Voronok neighborhood. Agekyan repeatedly threatened the victim.

Late last year, despite the full support of the city district head, Andrei Bulgakov, Glavgosstroynadzor (Main Directorate for Construction Supervision) created problems for Grigor Agekyan. The supervisory agency halted the construction of a 17-story residential building, where the local administration planned to relocate over a thousand residents from a dilapidated neighborhood.

Agekyan is implicated in numerous criminal cases. In one instance, Agekyan, better known as Goga, fired a live round at Fryazino Deputy Mayor Saipudin Tsakayev. The businessman's security guards also assaulted city hall employees.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:43 am to
The old shell game, trying to hide losses that are out of control.







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The consolidated budget balance is usually not a very interesting statistic. It combines Russia’s federal budget with regional budgets and extra-budgetary funds (Russia’s social security system). In most years, the consolidated budget balance is very close to the federal balance, typically within 0.5% of GDP. However, 2025 was an unusual year for the Russian budgetary system.
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Although the official data on Russia’s consolidated budget balance has not yet been published, all of its components are already available. When added up, they show that Russia’s consolidated budget deficit will be close to 8.3 trillion rubles, or 3.9% of GDP. The federal budget deficit was 2.6% of GDP in 2025; meanwhile, deficits outside the federal budget added another 1.3% of GDP.



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