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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:29 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:29 pm to Chromdome35
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I know the Russians have localized a lot of the Shahed drone production. Are there any components of the Shahed that Russia still relies on Iran to provide? If so, that could have a real impact.
It's called Geran, with current models being #2 or 3 not Shahed for a reason. They're made entirely in house in Russsia now with some parts allegedly being sourced in China.
Lots of nafos and bitter Ukrainians continue to refer to them as shaheds even though what Russia makes now is fundamentally different and improved from the original shahed. Like calling RPG-7 a "panzerfaust". This is why you're asking a dumb questions because you got brainwashed into thinking they still rely on Iran.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 3:32 pm
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Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:31 pm to CitizenK
I wasn't very clear in my question. Does the Russian shadow fleet take oil from Russia, transport it to Iran where it gets merged with Iranian oil and then sold to avoid the sanctions?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:33 pm to AFstAF
Thank you for answering my question. So no, there won't be any negative impact to Russia in regards to drone procurement.
Are there any negative impacts to Russia if Iran is overthrown? It's a legit question.
Are there any negative impacts to Russia if Iran is overthrown? It's a legit question.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:34 pm to texag7
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And Russia is gaining ground daily while Ukrainians are deserting in record numbers.
Why are Ukrainians running away from the Russians in record numbers?
Would you consider helping Ukraine?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:36 pm to Chromdome35
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I wasn't very clear in my question. Does the Russian shadow fleet take oil from Russia, transport it to Iran where it gets merged with Iranian oil and then sold to avoid the sanctions?
Without pipelines how does it get exported via Iran? Iran has no exports of oil or refined products outside of the Gulf. They don't even have any ports on the Indian Ocean.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:39 pm to Chromdome35
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Are there any negative impacts to Russia if Iran is overthrown? It's a legit question.
Sure there are negative impacts, loss of face. Proof that being an ally is not of any help. Shrinking sphere of influence globally. Maybe Lula in Brazil but what good is he to Russia without Venezuela and Columbia onboard?
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:40 pm to CitizenK
Ok, thanks for educating me.
So another non factor to losing Iran.
I'm not really coming up with anything other than a loss of prestige and further proof of its impotency to do anything about it.
So another non factor to losing Iran.
I'm not really coming up with anything other than a loss of prestige and further proof of its impotency to do anything about it.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:40 pm to Chromdome35
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Are there any negative impacts to Russia if Iran is overthrown? It's a legit question.
Probably not in short term, possibly some diffusive ISIS/extermemis creep through the Southern Caucus region and stans, but there has always been some of that historically. Question is how the radicalism will be funded and shaped, because most of the times someone is funding those nuts.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:46 pm to Chromdome35
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I wasn't very clear in my question. Does the Russian shadow fleet take oil from Russia, transport it to Iran where it gets merged with Iranian oil and then sold to avoid the sanctions?
That makes absolutely zero sense economically by adding cost, $15 per barrel is my guess.
Every single time something is handled it is extra cost. The extra freight costs money, the handling dockside costs money, the storage costs money and the blending/reloading costs money.
I'm not saying it is a stupid question but if you know anything about freight and handling it is a stupid question.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 3:52 pm to CitizenK
This is why then Gov Palin's deal with TransCanada to build a pipeline from Alaska's North Slope through Canada to the Lower 48 was the dumbest idea in the history of the world. All it did was get Alaska to pay $500 million for a study that was going to show that it was stupid.
The pipeline would go right through the natural gas production part of Canada already looking for markets and near Bakken where natural gas was all but stranded and being flared.
In short, Palin was a moron or making bank for herself behind the scenes
The pipeline would go right through the natural gas production part of Canada already looking for markets and near Bakken where natural gas was all but stranded and being flared.
In short, Palin was a moron or making bank for herself behind the scenes
Posted on 1/10/26 at 4:15 pm to AFstAF
quote:What poster who got banned used to use the term NAFO repeatedly??
Lots of nafos
Posted on 1/10/26 at 4:21 pm to LSURussian
Do you think the US government is going to shut down the site again?
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 1/10/26 at 4:25 pm to Chromdome35
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Ok, thanks for educating me.
So another non factor to losing Iran.
I'm not really coming up with anything other than a loss of prestige and further proof of its impotency to do anything about it.
The big one is Iran has been a vehicle of terrorism against the West. Yemen, Gaza, Syria, etc... Losing Venezuela was a big blow to both Russia and Iran. A lot of terrorists were trained there, especially on the island of Margarita. Russian equipped of course
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 1/10/26 at 4:29 pm to CitizenK
The US and Israel are the two biggest winners if Iran falls.
There could be a decent peace dividend if all the terrorist groups that Iran used to fund get cut off from their sugar daddy.
There could be a decent peace dividend if all the terrorist groups that Iran used to fund get cut off from their sugar daddy.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 4:35 pm to AFstAF
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They're made entirely in house in Russsia (sic) now
Russia can always depend on a little help from its friends...
Oh, WAIT!!!
Posted on 1/10/26 at 4:57 pm to Chromdome35
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Are there any components of the Shahed that Russia still relies on Iran to provide?
Looks like they are dependent on China and western countries for many components.
you can tweak the filter on the link below for other weapons
Geran-2 foreign component database
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:14 pm to CitizenK
Let us not forget that via rail, Iran has ice free ports and how most of the supplies shipped to Russia during WWII were sent, including entire refinery process unit for making high octane aviation gasoline.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 5:23 pm to Chromdome35
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The US and Israel are the two biggest winners if Iran falls.
Saudi Arabia too if it no longer has to worry about attacks from Iran or its proxies
UAE loses because it is where a lot of Iranian goods are not only transshipped but even packaged after receipt in bulk such as lube oil "Made in UAE" Lube oil was offered to me a few years ago, from brand new Iranian blending facilities sent by small tanker to UAE to be repackaged as a different country of origin. There is a company based in Texas which imports base oil from UAE which is said to actually be Iranian by the tanker load.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:02 pm to Chromdome35
BTW, so much for the losers at life who believed Mearsheimer the lefty.
All of his assessments and predictions have been WRONG.
All of his assessments and predictions have been WRONG.
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:06 pm to Chromdome35
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Is anyone interested in discussing the implications to Russia if Iran falls?
There isn't a huge impact directly on Russia if Iran falls. They have only a small amount of trade, they are somewhat geographically isolated, and I'm not sure if there's anything else that would tie them together to much.
It does signal how weak Russia is right now - Russia cannot support/protect dictators looking for help. That has large geopolitical ramifications in the coming years, we're just going to have to see how it plays out.
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