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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:34 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:34 pm to Auburn1968
Definitely a valid target if true.
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:30 pm to CitizenK
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Definitely a valid target if true.
It's not.
Think about Trump, think about what he wants. He wants a peace agreement so that he can get the Noble Peace Prize. Neither Ukraine nor Russia want to be blamed for him not getting what he wants. So Ukraine takes their 20 points to Mar a Lago on Christmas week, showing a complete willingness to negotiate under Trump's guidance.
But now Putin can't and won't agree to any cease fire, much less a peace agreement. So in an attempt to deflect blame onto the Ukrainians for the negotiations failing yet again (what is it now, seven times?), the Russians fabricate this lie about Putin's residence being attacked.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:56 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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But now Putin can't and won't agree to any cease fire, much less a peace agreement. So in an attempt to deflect blame onto the Ukrainians for the negotiations failing yet again (what is it now, seven times?), the Russians fabricate this lie about Putin's residence being attacked.
Putin won't agree to a ceasefire because Russia is advancing and shouldn't agree to a ceasefire. It would be beyond stupid for them to agree to one, even at the meager pace of advance they currently have. All they would be doing is giving Ukraine time to better prepare defenses and not really get any kind of benefit from the ceasefire themselves. They aren't going to replenish reserves during a ceasefire. They aren't going to manufacture a meaningful number of weapons in that time. I suppose they could fortify some of the cities they recently took, but if the goal is to advance anyway that is kind of a waste
Ukraine knows this, and putting a ceasefire as part of any agreement kills the deal right away because they don't intend to make a deal right now either. Both sides want to be seen as willing to appease Trump. It's all theater.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:08 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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It's not.
Of course, Putin is a valid target. It would piss off his lackeys, the Russian media, MAYBE. More likely they would go with the flow to whatever follows and what money flows to them.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:22 pm to CitizenK
Well guys, if the US can track migrating birds during cold fronts, they should easily have the tracking on the 91 drones. Trump needs to make public the tracking documentation for that night showing reality. Until that happens, we just assume every one is lying, just like blowing up the two gas pipelines 3 years ago.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:42 pm to VolSquatch
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Putin won't agree to a ceasefire because Russia is advancing and shouldn't agree to a ceasefire. It would be beyond stupid for them to agree to one
If this gives them a chance to stop this war an get some land out of the deal, seems if Putin had half a functioning brain, this wouldn’t be a bad deal.
But I’m assuming he knows that we are a ways off from Trump or anybody else giving Ukraine what they need to push Russia back so I guess they continue to say frick it and keep fighting and making their small gains.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:42 pm to VolSquatch
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Ukraine knows this, and putting a ceasefire as part of any agreement kills the deal right away because they don't intend to make a deal right now either
If there’s a peace agreement put in place, why do we need a cease fire?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:53 pm to notiger1997
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If this gives them a chance to stop this war an get some land out of the deal, seems if Putin had half a functioning brain, this wouldn’t be a bad dea
I think this deal just turns everything into a DMZ and freezes the lines, and then Ukraine would have security guarantees. I think it's pretty clear Putin wants to dictate terms, not have them dictated and also not actually get any land.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 3:54 pm to doubleb
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If there’s a peace agreement put in place, why do we need a cease fire?
Because this isn't a peace agreement, it's a "peace plan". The formal agreement would be a separate document. Russia wouldn't sign an agreement where Ukraine would need to have a referendum in order to vote on giving up land... If the deal is already agreed to of course the citizens would just vote no
Posted on 12/30/25 at 4:18 pm to CitizenK
Interesting perspective from a former Navy Seal from Seal Team 6.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 6:42 pm to Trevaylin
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Until that happens, we just assume every one is lying, just like blowing up the two gas pipelines 3 years ago.
A Ukrainian was arrested for blowing them up.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 7:32 pm to texag7
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A Ukrainian was arrested for blowing them up.
The America is bad crowd believed Seymour Hersch. It was us.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 7:48 pm to Auburn1968
Thxs for sharing
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:55 pm to Leopold
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Here ya go, big guy here's the source, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, but hey, do your best to trash more experts:
Russia's Battlefied Woes
And here's a Pulitzer Prize Winning journalist quoting a report to the US CONGRESS that it could be as high as 6.5 to 1:
Report Given to US Congress on Russian Casualties
Also, here's another one, but admittedly this one is a bit dated:
Estimating Troop Losses on Both Sides
So there's three, but again, you'll lie and say that I can't provide a source.
Jesus I need to stop debating morons on the internet....
Your first link just goes to a bunch of bios at a think tank. Not a source. The second one: are you kidding me? "Could be"? The 6.5 number doesn't even appear in the article.
And your third link is numbers that are before Ukraine's counteroffensive.. Losses were about 1:1 during 2023, which somewhat balanced out some of the crazy losses of the prior year (especially in Bakhmut with Wagner's use of "human waves" of Russian prisoners).
No respected and serious source thinks that the ratio for the war as a whole is as high as 2:1. Pretending that it's higher than that is really an insult to the Ukrainian people and the sacrifices that they have made.
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Jesus I need to stop debating morons on the internet....
You'd probably do better in those debates if you didn't spout absurd BS.
EDIT - don't know which is worse: this kind of silliness or the Russian trolls who for the longest time pretended that Russian losses were much smaller than Ukrainian losses, because of course the glorious Russian army was slaughtering the stupid, primitive hohols.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:57 pm to VolSquatch
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And I could give you dozens of actual body exchanges that have hundreds of Ukrainians for a couple dozen Russians.
Not a good metric, because the side that's advancing will recover the dead much more easily than the side that's retreating.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 8:59 pm to notiger1997
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If this gives them a chance to stop this war an get some land out of the deal, seems if Putin had half a functioning brain, this wouldn’t be a bad deal.
It would cause a governmental collapse. Russia can't quit right now without an economic crisis.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:55 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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Music from Swan Lake was broadcast on UVB-76, the radio station known as Russia’s “Doomsday Radio.”
Several hours after the Kremlin vowed retaliation over an alleged assassination attempt on Putin, a claim made by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov accusing Ukraine, the so-called “Doomsday Radio” began airing music from Tchaikovsky’s ballet Swan Lake.
The same music was famously broadcast during major political crises in the Soviet era, including the deaths of leaders and the 1991 coup attempt.
The station also aired various pro-war Russian songs, including tracks calling for a nuclear strike on Ukraine.
UVB-76 is a radio station that began broadcasting in the Soviet Union in 1975. Until 2023, it was operated by Russia’s Western Military District. Usually, the station transmits a monotonous buzzing signal that is occasionally interrupted by encoded voice messages.
Although the station’s purpose has never been officially disclosed, some experts speculate that its transmitter may be linked to Russia’s “Perimeter” missile system and sends a signal for the so-called “Dead Hand,” which would trigger an automatic nuclear retaliation if command signals were cut off following a nuclear attack against Russia.
And now since this xpost "The Buzzer" has stopped broadcasting.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 3:15 am to Stealth Matrix
Posted on 12/31/25 at 3:22 am to Coeur du Tigre
A second target, Black Sea port...
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Russia's Tuapse refinery halted crude processing and suspended Black Sea fuel exports after Ukrainian drone attacks (Reuters Nov 5). It produces high-sulphur diesel, mostly for export
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The acronym ELOU-AVT-12 refers to an installation of electric desalination and dehydration of oil, atmospheric and vacuum distillation. The processing unit was commissioned in 2013 with the capacity of 12 million tons/year for oil about 88 million US barrels
Posted on 12/31/25 at 3:25 am to Coeur du Tigre
The Rybinsk depot has caught a strong nomination for Bavovna of the Week©.
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