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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:55 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:55 am to VolSquatch
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If Russia's air defense sucks, you'd think Ukraine would have air superiority.... right?
No, not if the air defenses are geared to stop planes and missiles and not drones.
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Because they are even more stupid than the Ukrainians, who are pretty stupid themselves
I actually believe the Ukrainians have shown a lot of smarts in defense of their country so far. Sure they have made mistakes, but overall they have used limited resources to keep a world super power at bay.
Call it virtue signaling if you want, but I call it like I see it. I know you don’t know much about football but Ukraine is like a five touchdown favorite only down three points in the third quarter. Their efforts have surprised the world.
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:13 am to VolSquatch
Here we go again, for the fifth time -
- Allow the Russians to write a long, unilateral, maximalist list of untenable demands;
- Get TACO to accept these demands by giving him a short power point on a laptop;
- Present them to Kyiv as their last, final, terminal, never-to-be-repeated chance to keep a few parts of their country in return for giving the Russians everything they want, plus a few more things they will want next week;
- Threaten to cut off all support for Ukraine if they don't agree; and then
- When Kyiv ignores it yet again, have more meetings, discussions, talk shops and bromantic weekends in some Russian toilet to be named later.
We know there's a technical difference between insanity and stupidity, but TACO erases the boundary.
- Allow the Russians to write a long, unilateral, maximalist list of untenable demands;
- Get TACO to accept these demands by giving him a short power point on a laptop;
- Present them to Kyiv as their last, final, terminal, never-to-be-repeated chance to keep a few parts of their country in return for giving the Russians everything they want, plus a few more things they will want next week;
- Threaten to cut off all support for Ukraine if they don't agree; and then
- When Kyiv ignores it yet again, have more meetings, discussions, talk shops and bromantic weekends in some Russian toilet to be named later.
We know there's a technical difference between insanity and stupidity, but TACO erases the boundary.
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Trump’s statement on Ukraine: “We are looking for another option to resolve the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, if possible, and I believe that in the end we will achieve this… It must stop. We are working very hard on it.”
As is typical for the Trump administration, in the coming days a new American anti-Ukrainian messaging campaign will begin, within which the lack of readiness to end the war will, of course, be blamed on the Ukrainian side. Washington criticizes Kyiv for refusing to accept Witkoff’s capitulation-style peace plan and for being unwilling to hand over territories without a fight.
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:31 am to VolSquatch
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This is propaganda, not a serious talking point
No, this is coming from qualified military experts and independent news sources (I've already listed a few, like Forbes and the ISW, but I'm too lazy to go back through my own feed to do it again). And after four years we've seen enough to know that nothing is changing in Russia in terms of tactics and abilities.
Frankly, I'd push it back to the 25th Century because there is no way in Hades they are taking a city of 3M people like Kiev, filled to the brim with people who want to cut Russia's throats after what they've done to the Ukrainians.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:40 am to Coeur du Tigre
Someone close to Trump needs to tell him just how bad he looks in all of this.
We know it’s not his war. We know he wants it stopped just as most do.
Bug it’s obvious that Putin wants to take a big part of Ukraine, he wants go dominate the rest of Ukraine, and he wants Ukraine to give up and let it all happen.
Everything else is BS. He isn’t worried about Russia speaking people, Nazis, bio labs, or even NATO. He does not want a prosperous Ukraine close to the West on his border and he wants what Ukraine had.
We know it’s not his war. We know he wants it stopped just as most do.
Bug it’s obvious that Putin wants to take a big part of Ukraine, he wants go dominate the rest of Ukraine, and he wants Ukraine to give up and let it all happen.
Everything else is BS. He isn’t worried about Russia speaking people, Nazis, bio labs, or even NATO. He does not want a prosperous Ukraine close to the West on his border and he wants what Ukraine had.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:43 am to T1gerNate
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Your post actually doesn’t address Kostyantynivka at all. Do you understand the significance of the city in Ukraine’s defense of Donetsk
It directly sourced the map you listed.
I understand the significance of the Donetsk, but more importantly I understand the Russian limitations that are now innate in their own capabilities. It doesn't matter if there is a logistics hub there if the Russians are incapable of using modern logistical capabilities. It doesn't matter if there is a tactical advantage if the Russians COMPLETELY lack any real maneuver capabilities and instead continue to throw men and material wantonly at point on a map, essentially slaughtering them. The only things that can be said about taking Donetsk is that a) doing so would deny the Ukrainians the use of it and b) well, congrats, you've taken...eh....about another 15km, or 10 miles, of land over the span of a year and a half. Not impressive in any way.
You were the one who wanted this discussion, but the people who know what they are talking about know it's icing on a poisoned cake.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:51 am to VolSquatch
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Maybe because they tried that in 2022-2023 and found out it doesn't work anymore?
It works fine, it's the Russians who dicked it up. The Ukrainians turned around and did exactly that back to them in the counteroffensive in 2023 and had some success with it despite the fact that they had less men and material than the Russians did. In fact, they did so well that the Ukrainians captured more tanks from the Russians than they had in their whole entire arsenal before then.
Vol, listen. You're saying this is just propaganda. Fine.
Here is the US Army's official report on the counterattack and how it highlights the need for combined arms. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS READ FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW WHATS GOING ON AND WHY THE RUSSIANS ARE GETTING THEIR TEETH KICKED IN BY A SMALLER, WEAKER OPPONENT:
US Army: Lessons from the Ukrainian Counteroffensive on Combined Arms
The Russians just suck at war right now, kinda like they have throughout their history, and they've gone back to the ole' 'throw bodies at 'em until they quit' method. Well, that works when someone invades Russia. It's more difficult when Russia invades someone else.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:29 pm to doubleb
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Call it virtue signaling if you want, but I call it like I see it.
So do I, which is why I call it virtue signaling.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:35 pm to Leopold
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No, this is coming from qualified military experts and independent news sources (
I'm sure it is, and that has nothing to do with whether its propaganda or not.
Its propaganda because its they are using it as a point of discussion when its completely irrelevant except when discussing the past pace of occupation.
it does not give us any indication that Ukraine will win this war. It doesgive us any indication that Russia will win this war. It does not tell us that Ukraine's lines will hold. It does not tell us the terms of any eventual deal that occurs between the two countries (which of all the possible outcomes is still the massive favorite).
The only thing it tells us is that Russia has been slow in taking land since the lines became fairly stable. We don't have another conflict in which drones were used to this extent and were this influential on the battlefield to compare this to. This might just be the pace of modern warfare now. Both sides more or less in gridlock until one gives up or collapses.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:38 pm to Leopold
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It works fine, it's the Russians who dicked it up. The Ukrainians turned around and did exactly that back to them in the counteroffensive in 2023 and had some success with it despite the fact that they had less men and material than the Russians did. In fact, they did so well that the Ukrainians captured more tanks from the Russians than they had in their whole entire arsenal before then.
You're making broad conclusions based on the first few months of the war when everyone was still figuring out drones. They have defined the battlefield in this war.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:26 pm to cypher
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:37 pm to VolSquatch
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So do I, which is why I call it virtue signaling.
You call it virtue signaling to limit discussion ; while you try and build a case for your side.
I can’t help you if you if you don’t want to acknowledge the apparent facts.
Russia’s had seriously under performed and Ukraine has seriously over performed. Dumbies don’t do that.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:45 pm to doubleb
Actually has only a little bit of Petraeus, but most significantly he noted that some of the Russian prisoners captured had signed up and were shipped to the front within the two weeks of joining.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:45 pm to doubleb
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You call it virtue signaling to limit discussion
No, its just virtue signaling when you're actually doing it.
"OH the Ukranians are so stunning and brave. And Russia is a big mean baddie".
You post shite like that multiple times per day usually.
We know that already.
Ukraine has the lowest average IQ in Europe
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:02 pm to VolSquatch
dude loves arguing that other side of the coin 
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:15 pm to VolSquatch
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Weird that Ukraine can't gain air superiority itself then
Ukraine does 't have nearly enough air power to do this.
The US used 2,400+ fixed wing aircraft for the 1st Gulf War and Saddam hid most of his jets.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:30 pm to VolSquatch
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quote: I’m wondering why it took hundreds of tank losses and hundreds of thousands of men killed for Russia to figure that out.
Because they are even more stupid than the Ukrainians, who are pretty stupid themselves
You said that Russians are more stupid than Ukrainians yet they have the highest average IQ in Europe. Their IQ average is higher thxn the US.
So is IQ important in war? Is it a good predictor of outcomes? Tactics? Strategy?
You said,
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Ukraine has the lowest average IQ in Europe
Why is that?
Posted on 12/5/25 at 3:11 pm to doubleb
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You said that Russians are more stupid than Ukrainians yet they have the highest average IQ in Europe. Their IQ average is higher thxn the US.
So is IQ important in war? Is it a good predictor of outcomes? Tactics? Strategy?
You said,
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Ukraine has the lowest average IQ in Europe
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Why is that?
So you want to use it when it supports your argument, but not when it refutes it?
Posted on 12/5/25 at 4:15 pm to VolSquatch
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Got to love those European "allies" that this bunch brags about all of the time
Spend billions of tax dollars to defend a bunch that wants to shut down all discourse. Does shutting down any and all discourse sound familiar?
Those European "allies" have gone full Soviet Union.
Muh Freedom!!!!
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 12/5/25 at 4:23 pm to VolSquatch
As expected, the pressure on De Wever and Brussels was too much. This is a big climb down from their former position that they and they alone are responsible for the Russian investment. What bullshite. With the portfolio interest already standing as collateral for close to $90 billion in loans to Ukraine, the precedent of mutual EU responsibility has been established for over a year.
I don't know too much about EU jurisdiction but why couldn't Ukraine just bring a massive suit for damages in a EU court in Brussels? Put another freeze on the Ru money until the case has run all the way through the court system. A special freeze - one that would allow the funds to be used as collateral for loans to Ukraine but prevent the Russians or TACO's mafia from touching it..
I don't know too much about EU jurisdiction but why couldn't Ukraine just bring a massive suit for damages in a EU court in Brussels? Put another freeze on the Ru money until the case has run all the way through the court system. A special freeze - one that would allow the funds to be used as collateral for loans to Ukraine but prevent the Russians or TACO's mafia from touching it..
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Nah I just think some of these "people" are detached from reality and there is a decent likelihood they end up disappointed with an eventual outcome most can see coming.
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