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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:23 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 11/19/25 at 8:23 pm to Auburn1968
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America and NATO have thousands of serviceable F16's that are being retired and replaced with F35's. Many will end up parked in the desert.
And?
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Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:02 pm to Tigris
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The writing was on the wall in 2018 when Russia banned The Death of Stalin because it made fun of Stalin and the Politburo of the time.
Note the latest icebreaker launched is the Stalingrad.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 4:32 am to CitizenK
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A sudden blaze on a railway line in Perm Krai destroyed an entire train of fuel tankers. Advisor to the former Mariupol mayor Petro Andriushchenko reports that nine tank cars went up in flames, with Russian sources already calling it a sabotage attack on the rail network.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 5:21 am to Coeur du Tigre
Chinese manpads actually work? Good to know. So who sold them / is selling them to the Ukrainians? Finally, if this unknown country is selling the to the Ukrainians, who else are they selling them to?
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We knew Witkoff was an incompetent fool before but never knew he was an idiot as well. But TACO was told this was his guy, so here he is.
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The story, titled “U.S. secretly drafting new plan to end Ukraine war,” reported that “Witkoff is leading the drafting of the plan and has discussed it extensively with Russian envoy Kirill Dmitriev.” The outlet cited an unnamed U.S. official as the source.
Journalist Michael Weiss promptly highlighted the blunder, posting a screenshot and noting, “Almost certainly this refers to Kirill Dmitriev, who is quoted in the story. But it seems the Russian side is leaking this for a reason. Also seems Dim Philby doesn’t know how Twitter works, but is nonetheless confident of his ability to end the war.”
Dim Philby is a play on the name of Kim Philby, a British intelligence officer and a double agent for the Soviet Union.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:34 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:06 am to LARancher1991
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Seems like Russia is starting to advance in multiple areas. Pokrovsk might be on its last gasp. In the South Russia moves deeper into the villages of Prymorske and Stepnohirsk. And based on Ukrainian FPV strikes at least some Russian troops have entered the outskirts of Lyman. Not saying it will but things might be about to go from bad to worse for Ukraine. Maybe instead of bombing refineries which have no immediate effect on the situation at the front they should focus on hitting actual front line units.
Seems like Russia is starting to advance in multiple areas. Pokrovsk might be on its last gasp. In the South Russia moves deeper into the villages of Prymorske and Stepnohirsk. And based on Ukrainian FPV strikes at least some Russian troops have entered the outskirts of Lyman. Not saying it will but things might be about to go from bad to worse for Ukraine. Maybe instead of bombing refineries which have no immediate effect on the situation at the front they should focus on hitting actual front line units.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:27 am to LARancher1991
Trading land for time is an old tactic. How many Russians die to take a football field sized chunk?
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:32 am to LARancher1991
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Maybe instead of bombing refineries which have no immediate effect on the situation at the front they should focus on hitting actual front line units.
Its been a criticism for a while that Ukraine was too focused on headline grabbing strikes and operations vs focusing on things that help them on the front itself. Ukraine might have done the calculus and decided the route they went offered better returns, and they still could be correct.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:34 am to CitizenK
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Trading land for time is an old tactic. How many Russians die to take a football field sized chunk?
As the advancing army Russia is able to get more accurate counts on their dead for themselves than Ukraine is able to. They are well aware of how many people it takes, and yet they are still advancing.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:11 am to VolSquatch
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They are well aware of how many people it takes, and yet they are still advancing.
Ask Napoleon and Hitler about that You can even ask the Japanese about that in their taking Burma to India, except in the case of the Japanese it was more about supply lines than attrition.
In 2022, there were numerous Russian advances which ended up being chopped up by Ukraine. Russia was trying to take strategic, at that time, hubs. These same hubs no longer have the same value they had in 2022. If taken back then would have trapped large numbers of Ukrainians in the east easily 10's of thousands.
Russia doesn't seem to have the capability to bypass strongholds and leave them stranded at the present. Without funds for the war, Russia has no army worth its ammo. Both oil exports and refining are huge parts of that funding. In fact, more important to the Russian economy than those economic factors are in Texas by a wide margin.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:26 am to CitizenK
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Ask Napoleon and Hitler about that You can even ask the Japanese about that in their taking Burma to India, except in the case of the Japanese it was more about supply lines than attrition.
Maybe they are just hellbent on advancing no matter what because of ego, ideology, or whatever else like those examples. Maybe.
What we do know is that there have also been considerable periods of time where Russia was not advancing and not even really trying to at all, which contradicts those narratives.
But they are continuing to advance despite heavy losses currently, and no one can come up with a reason without speculating on someone's psychology or coming up with scenarios where someone has a knife at Putin's throat and he has no choice.
The simplest and most likely explanation here that for ideological reasons many are incapable of admitting is that they are ok with what they are gaining (and Ukraine is losing) at the cost they are having to pay for it currently.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:26 am to CitizenK
Trading land for time is an old tactic. But its a tactic that is only successful when you can field comparable numbers as your enemy and when you enemy has some caring about losses. Also it's a tactic that is used when at some point you can retake what was lost. That's not what is happening here and if it is then it's a terrible strategy that is doomed to fail.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:34 am to LARancher1991
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Trading land for time is an old tactic. But its a tactic that is only successful when you can field comparable numbers as your enemy and when you enemy has some caring about losses. Also it's a tactic that is used when at some point you can retake what was lost. That's not what is happening here and if it is then it's a terrible strategy that is doomed to fail.
Fielding 1/3 works but in the case of against Russia it can be as low as 1/10th, at times. We've been hearing about how Ukraine doesn't have a large enough military for sometime, yet they took a large chunk of Kursk. They recently allowed the Russians to stupidly advance in a wrong direction then counterattack with forces they supposedly didn't have, to chop up the Russian advance and allow pockets to starve to death or surrender.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:44 am to LARancher1991
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Maybe instead of bombing refineries which have no immediate effect on the situation at the front they should focus on hitting actual front line units.
Reports indicate the seasonal fog is hurting their efforts to do that.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:57 am to VolSquatch
[quote]What we do know is that there have also been considerable periods of time where Russia was not advancing and not even really trying to at all, which contradicts those narratives. [/quote
When did Russia not try and advance?
When did Russia not try and advance?
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:04 am to CitizenK
That's all great but at some point the trading land for time has to stop. They don't have much more land to trade in the Donetsk region. It's not a winning tactic unless you have the ability to counter attack and retake what was lost which Ukraine does not. Yes, they can take land back here and there but they do not have the ability to trade land for time indefinitely. Especially now that there are reports that Putin and Trump are working on another peace deal. As far as the Kursk thing yea it made a good headline but strategically was about the dumbest thing they could've done.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:14 am to LARancher1991
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That's all great but at some point the trading land for time has to stop
What if it’s their only option?
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Putin and Trump are working on another peace deal[/quote
I’m guessing that’s the reason Putin is making this hard push despite his losses, politics. He’s positioning himself in a position of strength.
[quote]As far as the Kursk thing yea it made a good headline but strategically was about the dumbest thing they could've done.
So instead of trading land for time, he relocated some of the action to Russian territory and thus saved both land (theirs) and time. Isn’t this what you recommended?
The question for Putin is how long can Russia keep letting Ukraine pick their spots in disrupting their economy, The question for. Is how long can they continue the holding action which is preventing Russia from taking significant chunks of Ukraine and eventually getting overwhelmed?
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:44 am to doubleb
Russian progress in Pokrovsk slowed, Putin/Trump ginning up another peace plan but it’s one sided, and the Russian terror bombing continues.
ISW report on the action and the politics
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Key Takeaways
Russia killed at least 26 Ukrainian civilians and injured at least 139 on the night of November 18 to 19 during its combined missile and drone strikes that disproportionately impacted civilian areas.
US and Russian officials reportedly drafted a 28-point peace plan that amounts to Ukraine’s full capitulation and would set conditions for renewed Russian aggression against Ukraine. The reported proposed peace plan would deprive Ukraine of critical defensive positions and capabilities necessary to defend against future Russian aggression, apparently in exchange for nothing.
This reported peace plan is fundamentally the same as Russia’s 2022 Istanbul demands, which Russia presented to Ukraine when the circumstances on the battlefield appeared to favor Russia more heavily. Russia’s long-held demands are dependent on the false premise that a Russian battlefield victory is inevitable. Ukraine’s interdiction efforts are preventing Russian forces from using vehicles and concentrating manpower in Pokrovsk and are likely slowing down Russia’s rate of advance within the town.
Russian forces recently advanced near Borova and Hulyaipole.
ISW report on the action and the politics
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 12:56 pm to doubleb
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When did Russia not try and advance?
There have been multiple months long stretches of time where the lines were pretty much completely stagnant with neither side was really even trying anything significant.
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