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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 11/16/25 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 12:29 pm to
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I've never seen any pumps close to docks. Manifolds I've seen. When Conoco received crude tankers as well as shipped products from its docks near the refinery, they were south of I-10 and Olin, while the refinery and tank farm was north of I-10 no pumps near the docks at all. Early 1980's. Product tankers were loaded via hoses. Incoming crude oil was offloaded via a pair of chicksans. There was a separate dock for Conoco Chemicals, now Sasol, which loaded VCM (a gas) for export to Venezuela or Brazil.

The Caspian Pipeline Consortium ships crude via three each single point mooring buoys out in the sea. This way VLCC's can be loaded to capacity thanks to deep water. I doubt any of the explosions affect this in the least
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:22 pm to
The WarTranslated image apparantly was taken by Google Earth on Oct. 19, 2024.



Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:33 pm to
Russia has either completed the conquest of Pokrovsk or has essentially done so.

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Posted by T1gerNate
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:43 pm to
Russia now to consolidate around Pokrovsk and push north and west to flank the Slaviansk Kramatorsk agglomeration? Perhaps we are reaching the final act of the Donbas war.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:45 pm to
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Donbas war.


If Putin had any sense, he’d redefine his objectives and declare victory.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 2:34 pm to
It was using MARINE TRAFFIC reports before then
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 4:51 pm to
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Perhaps we are reaching the final act of the Donbas war.


It took Russia about 15 months to take Pokrovsk. There is a lot of territory for Russia to gain before they even begin to threaten Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:05 pm to
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Perhaps we are reaching the final act of the Donbas war.


Shows a gross lack of comprehension of what is actually happening.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 7:52 pm to
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Shows a gross lack of comprehension of what is actually happening.


But you know. OK buddy. Watch what happens.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:48 pm to
Putin has put Russia in economic peril and become a vasal of China just for Donbas? That makes zero sense especially due destroying anything productive about it. That will be a super had sell to the Russian people and especially the elite.
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 11/16/25 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:39 am to
Looks like South Asian and Chinese crude oil futures are going to stay parked in Riyadh for the rest of the year at least.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:42 am to
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Wow. We knew winter was coming but shite... 67 to 115%? Also kind of strange due to the fact that the Amur Oblast, bordering northeastern China, accounts for 75% of the hydropower resources in the Russian Far East.
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It also holds considerable reserves of many types of mineral resources; proven reserves are estimated to be worth US$400 billion. Among the most important are gold (the largest reserves in Russia), silver, titanium, molybdenum, tungsten, copper, and tin. There are also an estimated 70 billion tons of bituminous coal and lignite reserves. Probable iron deposits are estimated to be 3.8 billion tons. The Garin deposit is fully explored and known to contain 389 million tons of iron ore. Estimated reserves of the deposit are 1,293 million tons. The deposit's ore contains a low concentration of detrimental impurities; the ore contains 69.9% iron. Amur Oblast is also a promising source of titanium, with the Bolshoy Seyim deposit being the most important.

Did we mention that this oblast borders China? Right across the border. And was a part of China before it was taken from the Qing dynasty by the Russian Imperial troops in 1858. Did we mention that the Chinese play the long game because they have long memories? And that this oblast is on the Chinese border? Just sayin'.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:20 am to
With Trump talking about "extremely harsh sanctions" on countries that continue to cooperate with Russia, it's important to keep in mind that the Pro-Russian wing of MAGA is increasingly leaving MAGA.

I don't think that it's in the best interest of Russian propaganda channels to promote this, but they obviously think otherwise.

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In my opinion, Trump is likely to toughen his stance on Russia because of the behavior of some members of his former coalition.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:35 am to
Russia Today, go figure
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:45 am to
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Pro-Russian wing of MAGA is increasingly leaving MAGA.


There is no “Pro-Russia” MAGA

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In my opinion


You’re always wrong so?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:35 am to
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Pro-Russian wing of MAGA is increasingly leaving MAGA.


There is no “Pro-Russia” MAGA



They will point to a few shills who are pro-Russia, but there isn't any meaningful contingent of MAGA people who are actually "Pro-Russia". An openly "Pro-Russia" politician would not win an election in any district in the country. Those people are (and should be) effectively irrelevant.

Now there is a larger contingent who might believe Russian versions of certain events, or want to cease funding for Ukraine, or maybe even want Ukraine to lose because of how Zelensky acts, how he treated Trump, or whatever else. But you don't have to be "Pro Russian" to hold any of those views.

Ultimately the viewpoint those people are using, right or wrong, is that its Ukraine vs America. Russia really isn't even a factor for them. I would argue that it should be. Its worth at least considering even if I mostly disagree.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:44 am to
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If Putin had any sense, he’d redefine his objectives and declare victory.



Well lets go over his publicly stated objectives:

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Protection of People in Donbas


Potentially achievable, at least in a marketing sense

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Demilitarization of Ukraine


He could argue this right now using quite a bit of spin given the population trends for Ukraine long term.

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“De-Nazification” of Ukraine


He could argue this right now because it was kind of fake to begin with

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Neutrality of Ukraine


TBD but trending toward no NATO membership for Ukraine

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Defending Russian Interests & Security


One of those fake generic objectives politicians like to put on anything they do, can argue this now

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Rights of People Who Voted in Referendums


Ties into the first one

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Achieving Peace via Fulfillment of Goals


Another one he can fake

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Long-Term Strategic Vision


Another one he can fake

He doesn't have to redefine anything, really.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:51 am to
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Sorry, so what direction are things trending?



I would say its pretty obvious things are trending toward Ukraine's manpower gap becoming more and more of an issue as time goes on. Ukraine wants to kill Russia's ability to wage war because if Russia can continue to wage war Ukraine eventually will have to surrender with unfavorable terms IF they even get that option.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:00 am to
Roman Kostenko says the number of soldiers who are AWOL in the Ukrainian army will soon equal the number actually in the army. 95% of cases are those who were just mobilized (as in they haven't finished training yet) or those who have served for too long and are tired.
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