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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:07 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:07 am to
But that's not all kids!


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The Ust-Luga attack was coordinated with this attack. LINK

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Confirmed.

Ukrainian drones [also struck] the Syzran oil refinery in Russia’s Samara region on the night of August 14–15, 2025, causing explosions and a fire

What Happened - Ukrainian Special Operations Forces targeted the ELOU-AVT-6 unit, a key processing facility at Syzran, which handles atmospheric and vacuum distillation and gasoline stabilization.

The refinery is part of Rosneft’s network and plays a major role in supplying fuel to both civilian and military sectors. Local reports cited over 10 explosions and visible fires. Russia’s Defense Ministry acknowledged drone activity but did not confirm damage specifics.

Strategic Impact - The Syzran refinery has a design capacity of 8.9 million tons per year [178,000 bbls/day], and its disruption is part of a broader Ukrainian campaign targeting Russian fuel infrastructure.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:11 am to
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Between the three components of the oil business - production, refining and downstream retail, the lynch pin is refining.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:20 am to
Speaking of refining...


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Mmmm... daylight bavovnas.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 5:31 am to
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The use of the ERAM would require Ukraine to seek approval from the Pentagon.

Just like Biden. The more things change...

Posted by cypher
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 6:49 am to
Maliuk celebrating Ukraine Independence day.

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This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 7:08 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 7:40 am to
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Peace won’t happen until Russia feels like they have more to lose by continuing the war


They have been economically hammered. It takes hundreds of lives if not thousands to make relatively miniscule territorial gains. And yet they keep going despite likely having a decent out via Trump. What does that tell you?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 8:17 am to
NGLs fractionation plant with a butamer unit and an isomerization unit. No LNG there. IT was hit before.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 9:11 am to
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What does that tell you?


I wouldn’t want to be Russia’s neighbor.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:32 am to
Ukraine’s attacks on Russia’s refineries should go down in history as “The Pipefitter’s and Welder’s Full Employment Campaign.”
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:44 am to
German welfare state 'can no longer be financed' — Merz

German economy in real trouble. German de-industralization is a disaster.


Rut roh.

Fritz is not going to be happy.

Credit to Mertz. The other weak European welchers don't have the balls to do it. They continue to allow the invasion from third world shitholes and then they put them on government benefits. When you bring in people who are alien to your culture and refuse to assimilate for the purpose of them working, but you put them all on government benefits while they are not made to work this is what you get.
This post was edited on 8/24/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 10:47 am to
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Compressors are 2-3 years


Totally made up
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16174 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:09 am to
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Totally made up


Pressure vessels and heat exchangers are 9 months deliver even is made in China. Just vanilla 516-70 grade carbon steel at that.

We all know that there are dozens of OEMs on the Houston Ship Channel per your statement on hydrocracker reactor manufacturing, just popping them out like puppies.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 11:39 am to
Another hole Putin has dug for himself.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 12:42 pm to



The politics of moral framing and socialism has failed.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 1:48 pm to
Russian foreign minister sets condition under which Ukraine "has the right to exist"

KATERYNA TYSHCHENKO — Sunday, 24 August 2025, 19:18

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said that Ukraine only "has the right to exist" if it renounces the territories where Russia staged sham referendums on annexation.

Source: Lavrov in an interview with NBC

Quote: "Ukraine has the right to exist, provided it must let people go. The people whom they call terrorists, whom they call species, and who during several referenda – in Novorossiya, in Donbas, in Crimea – decided that they belong to the Russian culture."

Details: Commenting on his own remark that Russia should also take part in security guarantees for Ukraine, Lavrov said: "I never said that Russia must have a veto on security guarantees. But security guarantees must be subject to consensus."

He added, "If you believe that Russia being marginalised in the discussions on security issues on our borders, that this is something which is natural and normal, then I'm sorry, something is wrong with the philosophy of your channel."

Background:

On 23-27 September 2022, Russia staged sham referendums on joining Russia in the occupied areas of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia oblasts, later declaring that between 87% and 99% had voted for annexation.
A few days later, Putin signed an "agreement on accession to Russia" for the occupied Ukrainian territories and declared that henceforth their residents would be Russian citizens.
On 21 June 2025, Putin said Moscow insists that Kyiv recognise the results of the "referendums" held in autumn 2022 in the so-called "Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics" (essentially Russian-backed terror organisations), and in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson oblasts, after which the occupied Ukrainian territories were labelled "Russian".

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Russian foreign minister sets condition under which Ukraine "has the right to exist"
Blink.
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Commenting on his own remark that Russia should also take part in security guarantees for Ukraine, Lavrov said: "I never said that Russia must have a veto on security guarantees. But security guarantees must be subject to consensus."
Another blink.

Sunday, 24 August 2025, 19:18.

The penny is dropping in Moscow. Those exploding refineries are talking.


Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:17 pm to
Yes, I thought the same thing, a slight retreat from his hardline statement a few days ago.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 2:35 pm to
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The politics of moral framing and socialism has failed.


It's not just Europe, it's the US too. Manufacturing orders for 4th quarter are already way down per several client plant managers. Engineering firms have had a lot of contracts cancelled a couple of months ago as well.

This is global. China has to incur serious debt to subsidize its own manufacturing otherwise they are not competitive. This is why they have had a monopoly on rare earth minerals Everyone else has them, but China subsidizes so heavily they undercut the market pricing. China still imports generic herbicides and pesticides so it isn't because can do it cheaper without extreme subsidies.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:02 pm to
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Compressors are 2-3 years



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Totally made up


I'm talking large centrifugal compressors for chemical plants, in the 14,000 BHP to 35,000 BHP range. Try ordering one with less than a 2 year delivery. Not your air compressor for your aquarium. You really are a clueless clown.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13167 posts
Posted on 8/24/25 at 3:09 pm to
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This. From what I've seen China can't manage to make high pressure piping components consistently, much less vessels needed for hydrocracking and diesel hydrotreating. Japan, Korea, and Italy are the places to source these.


It matches my experience. No plants are willing to buy anything with Chinese steel included - too many failures. And if you are not going to buy their steel you certainly won't be buying their pressure vessels. That would be insanity.

Insanity that Russia just might resort to. They are very good at it these days.
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