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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:41 am to
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:41 am to
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The leftist rent a mob crowd showed up in Alaska yesterday.

Lee B is there with the mask. Leopold is wearing his red Carolina pants. Cope is hiding his face and holding the Dictators go home sign.

Posted by AU86
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:11 am to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:28 am to
NYT: Trump invites European leaders to his meeting with Zelenskyy

Iryna Kutielieva, KATERYNA TYSHCHENKO — Saturday, 16 August 2025, 17:37

US President Donald Trump has invited European leaders to a meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy scheduled for Monday 18 August at the White House, The New York Times has reported.

Source: European Pravda; The New York Times, citing two senior European officials

Details: NYT reports that Trump wants to discuss a "peace plan" that includes Ukraine making territorial concessions.

The unnamed officials said that Trump will discuss the plan with Zelenskyy at the White House on Monday 18 August, and that European leaders have been invited to attend.

Decisions regarding its territory are for Ukraine to make, the sources stressed, adding that international borders should not be changed by force.

The officials also added that during a conversation with European leaders, Trump did not mention any additional sanctions or economic pressure on Russia. However, European leaders emphasised that they would continue to impose sanctions and put economic pressure on Russia until the killings stop.

Background:

Bloomberg has reported that Trump has informed European leaders and Zelenskyy that Russian leader Vladimir Putin is still demanding the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the entire territory of Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts. In return, Russia will give up its claims to parts of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson oblasts that it does not currently control, effectively freezing the front line.
Trump is said to have told Ukraine and European leaders that Putin wanted to immediately discuss the terms of ending the war, not just a pause in hostilities.

Ukrainska Pravda
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:07 pm to
Looks like Russia's big breakthrough is being cut off and is in danger of encirclement.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Reliance isn't owned by Russians

Correct. That's what 49% means.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Looks like Russia's big breakthrough is being cut off and is in danger of encirclement.


It appears there was no real breakthrough. It was more like a few individual units slipped through the lines only to be detected and stopped and are now in jeopardy.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:27 pm to
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There's nothing I can really say to add to this, his statements speak for themselves. He just keeps digging the hole hoping someone will save him. Well Donnie, it ain't going to be Putin.

Giant compromised pussy.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 12:33 pm to
Its owned by insurance companies, individuals, etc... JUST LIKE EXXON
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 1:05 pm to
Zelenskyy rejects Putin's demand to cede all of Donetsk Oblast – Reuters

KATERYNA TYSHCHENKO — Saturday, 16 August 2025, 20:03

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has told his US counterpart Donald Trump that Kyiv rejects a demand put forward by Kremlin leader Vladimir Putin to cede the still-unoccupied areas of Donetsk Oblast to Russia in exchange for freezing the front in other regions, according to Reuters.

Source: Reuters, citing sources

Details: According to a source, Trump told Zelenskyy that Putin proposed to "freeze most front lines" in return for Ukraine giving Russia all of Donetsk Oblast.

"Zelenskyy rejected the demand, the source said," Reuters said.

Reuters’ sources also confirmed that European leaders have been invited to take part in the talks between Trump and Zelenskyy on Monday.

Previously: Earlier on Saturday, The New York Times also reported that Zelenskyy and European leaders have strongly opposed any concession of unoccupied Donbas territory, which also holds key defensive positions and valuable mineral resources.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Its owned by insurance companies, individuals, etc... JUST LIKE EXXON

I believe we are confusing the Reliance Industries Limited, a huge multinational holding group, with Reliance Nayara Energy, the owner of said largest refinery in the world in Guajarat. Totally understandable, I could have been more specific.

Reliance Nayara Energy was directly part of the Reliance Industries Limited group but after the refinery was built around 20 years ago, it was demerged and reorganized as a joint venture with Rosneft.

As of June 30 of this year, Rosneft still owned 49.13% of Reliance Nayara Energy but is trying to sell its stake due to the sanctions. Unless they have completed this sale in secrecy, they still own that share block.

LINK

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Posted by AU86
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 3:37 pm to
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I will believe this when I see it. I can't see Russia accepting western troops in Ukraine.

It would be a major mistake for Trump to issue US security guarantees. Let the Europeans issue the guarantee minus an Article 5 assurance from the US.

Probably fake news. Ukrainian JB type propaganda.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 3:57 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:08 pm to
Trump is out here trying to end the money laundering as promised

Ukraine bros sitting back, sucking on rubber dicks lubed by their tears
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 4:28 pm to
Separate companies. Reliance is NOT Nayara. Reliance still owns the largest refinery.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:54 pm to
CNN: "Trump arrived well prepared to negotiate with Putin."


Posted by Knight of Old
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 7:03 pm to
Zelensky holds this many cards: 0…
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 7:17 pm to
Even without sanctions on India, Russian crude is selling just above breakeven. Putin has zero cards
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:19 pm to
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Zelensky holds this many cards: 0…


Putin's card.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 12:42 am to
But... you're the one posting this stuff here...
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/17/25 at 3:58 am to
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Separate companies. Reliance is NOT Nayara. Reliance still owns the largest refinery.

Correct. That was my point.
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