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re: Latest from DOGE: Agencies often have more software licenses than employees

Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:40 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:40 am to
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When has the federal government closed out thousands of positions only to quickly refill them with contract workers?


The federal government fills gaps in workload with contractors every fricking day.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29725 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:54 am to
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Most shocking part of those revelations is that Winzip is still in business


And now you know how its still in business. Big daddy gubmint keeping it going.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16384 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:59 am to
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If you have more people retiring/leaving than you originally had licenses when you set up the contract. You could wind up in a spot where you are paying fir more licenses than employees using them...until the contract for the license renews.


Double??? Paying for 10K using 5K ? Really?

It's a lot more like people running a business with a bottomless pocket book and no one, I mean NO ONE concerned about expenses.

I work for a fortune 500 company and we do without software because they don't have an extra license.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12308 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:06 am to
Software licenses? Sure, clean up expired licenses as required at every organization.

We’re not going to be able to balance the budget with that announcement though.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20093 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:08 am to
LOL, someone isnt doing their job

or

This is a good way to fund someone to push your agenda.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37107 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:13 am to
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Most shocking part of those revelations is that Winzip is still in business and someone is actually paying for those licenses.



Too many ignorant windows users.

If you're still using Windows, you should not have a computer.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41044 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:14 am to
This is one that just highlights how poorly managed everything is, in reality, there is no management.

Depending on the software, this is a pretty common practice. The red flag obviously is the level that they are above the employment numbers. Should be pretty easy to do a rolling ~5 year average of employees for a department, assume an allowable variance %, and reduce licenses down to that number.

Just shows how little ANYTHING actually gets looked at in the government. Everything is on auto-pilot if it is a system related item.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59230 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:06 am to
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The federal government fills gaps in workload with contractors every fricking day.


They aren't replacing thousands of terminated positions with contractors without getting the funding for those positions reinstated (which is part of the goal behind cutting those positions in the first place). But when USAID cuts those ~10k positions, you be sure to come back and link when they refill them all with contractors.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 11:29 am
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5384 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 11:14 am to
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If you have more people retiring/leaving than you originally had licenses when you set up the contract. You could wind up in a spot where you are paying fir more licenses than employees using them...until the contract for the license renews.


The vast majority of software licenses are for one year. (Winzip is typically one year). This scenario would work if you really think that about 64% of the entire GSA retired in one year and hardly anybody got replaced leaving 24k unused WinZip licenses with 13k employees.

This is what happened. They got a budget. In order to keep the budget where it is (or higher), they kept rubber stamping the invoices for these software licenses every year.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 12:59 pm to
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They aren't replacing thousands of terminated positions with contractors without getting the funding for those positions reinstated


Look, it's OK for you to just say that you don't have a clue how any of this works.

It's amazing how confident some of you are in these discussions, when you're talking out of your asses.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:22 pm to
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If you have more people retiring/leaving than you originally had licenses when you set up the contract. You could wind up in a spot where you are paying fir more licenses than employees using them...until the contract for the license renews.



No, you fricking reassign them
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59230 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 3:19 pm to
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Look, it's OK for you to just say that you don't have a clue how any of this works.

My dear, winter child.

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It's amazing how confident some of you are in these discussions, when you're talking out of your asses.


I'm confident because this is part of what I have been doing for a living for over a decade and a half. How about you? Other than flinging short, glib answers, you've provided nothing to support your claim.

Prove me wrong though, prove to me how they'll cut the job positions, cut the funding for them, but magically fill the non-existent positions and pay for them with non-existent funds.
Posted by TroyTider
Florida Panhandle
Member since Oct 2009
4035 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 3:40 pm to
They should call rocket mortgage.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 4:07 pm to
Even allowing for licenses on computers used as backups (they do fail from time to time, I've had it happen to me), the ratio of licenses/employees is ridiculous.

And not every employee needs WinZip.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 5:30 pm to
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I'm confident because this is part of what I have been doing for a living for over a decade and a half. How about you?


I'm confident because this is what I've been doing for over two decades.



quote:

Prove me wrong though, prove to me how they'll cut the job positions, cut the funding for them, but magically fill the non-existent positions and pay for them with non-existent funds.




Sorry, but I have to call bullshite on your claim that you've been "doing this" for any amount of time.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33332 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 5:33 pm to
It’s disgusting that you don’t find waste noteworthy. Liberal scum
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59230 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:16 pm to
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Sorry, but I have to call bullshite on your claim that you've been "doing this" for any amount of time.


You can call it all you want, but it's not answering.

quote:

I'm confident because this is what I've been doing for over two decades.








Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139388 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:29 pm to
How are they finding this stuff so quickly? Nee releases every day.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:38 pm to
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You can call it all you want, but it's not answering.


I've answered just as much as you have.

Sorry to smack your "trust me, bro" into the ground where it belongs.

Good talk, though.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 6:41 pm to
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I'm confident because this is what I've been doing for over two decades.


Are you a government contractor?
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