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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Jury Deliberation Day 3: Reported Jury is done deliberating for the day

Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:47 pm to
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Bailiffs aren't texting internet personalities;

Yeah that may be a little extreme, but I can assure you it's a very common practice for the bailiffs guarding the door to listen intently as to the progress of deliberations. Mostly because they're ready to be done with a jury trial and take it to the house. It easily slips out from there. Not necessarily to anyone and everyone, but to a few. And from there, it just takes one soul who is armed and ready to let their exclusive scoop slip.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71305 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:48 pm to
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Again, I'm speculating, but I can see a way that this move makes some sense.

It makes sense to file both. Attorneys do this all the time. They'll file a Motion asking for relief but also request alternative relief based on the same facts and legal arguments. This is a CYA motion in case the jury returns a guilty verdict and he can't get his motion for a mistrial with prejudice granted. It wouldn't be an acquittal but a retrial is better than having to go through the appeals process
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 3:49 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Yeah that may be a little extreme, but I can assure you it's a very common practice for the bailiffs guarding the door to listen intently as to the progress of deliberations. Mostly because they're ready to be done with a jury trial and take it to the house. It easily slips out from there. Not necessarily to anyone and everyone, but to a few. And from there, it just takes one soul who is armed and ready to let their exclusive scoop slip.



Yeah, I'd guess at least few people in the courthouse have a good idea where they are.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
42832 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:51 pm to
A hung jury SHOULD have been even more motivation for the defense to go at the judge for a dismissal. But then doing that would effectively upstage their position , make Barnes right, and they couldn't have that now. Noooooo!
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17632 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:52 pm to
They can, but they're not announcing this crap show until Monday. Bet on it.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:57 pm to
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Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson
#KyleRittenhouse - 23 hours. The jury has now been deliberating a total of 23 hours over 3 days. #VerdictWatch.
@LawCrimeNetwork
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46235 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:58 pm to
Lets map the outcomes and their chances:

Day 1 of deliberation:
Acquittal - High
Conviction - Low
Compromise verdict -Low
Hung - Low
Dismissal with prejudice - Low

Defense feels great, right?

Day 2:
Acquittal -Low
Conviction - Low
Hung - High
Compromise verdict - High
Dismissal with prejudice - Low

Now, the defenses chances just took a shite. Adding a dismissal option that wont get the judge burned at the stake starts to look like a nice option.

Day 3:
Acquittal -Low
Conviction - Low
Hung - High
Compromise verdict - High
Dismissal with prejudice - Low
Dismissal with retrial - Too soon to tell.


This is the ONLY way the second motion to dismiss makes sense.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 3:59 pm to
I said Monday this thing would go until Friday. And I was downvoted into oblivion. But, what do you know. Ted was right, again. Ted is always right.
Posted by Bamafan24
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2014
9069 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:01 pm to
Jury done for the day
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24813 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:02 pm to
Judge should say no.
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
12140 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:02 pm to
This sucks
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:03 pm to
We're back
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This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 4:04 pm
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:03 pm to
Judge calling them down to send them home for the day
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
12140 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:04 pm to
If they’re done early, that means jurors are pissed at each other.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:04 pm to
Sounds like the jury is probably ready to start killing each other. Looking to go home early today.
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
12140 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:07 pm to
Karen wants to take jury instructions home. Judge says yes like the doofus he is.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86508 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:08 pm to
Taking instructions home? Wow.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22704 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:08 pm to
100% mistrial- they need to just give it up at this point
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:08 pm to
Clown show.

"Sure. Bring the instructions home."

Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 4:08 pm to
Frick all this. This should be a mistrial with prejudice
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