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re: Kyle Rittenhouse decisions to shoot were reasonable, use-of-force expert testifies
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:32 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:32 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
The fact that our baw Ritty was ever even charged is a gross miscarriage of justice itself.
I fear this kid won't get a reasonable jury, I really do.
Any reasonable person can look at the video evidence of the events in question from their very beginning until the very end. That reasonable person would then inarguably conclude that Kyle's actions were 100% self defense. The kid even showed a shitload of restraint- something I wouldn't have had in that situation. The anqueefa thug that Kyle "disarmed" (
) was advancing on him with a fricking pistol in his hand FFS. That's after a pedophile tried to assault him from behind and take his rifle, and after another anqueefa loser tried to take Kyle's fricking head off with a skateboard.
...If I see a scared kid with a high powered rifle on the ground with that rifle pointed at me, the last fricking thing I'm going to do is advance on him while trying to hide the goddamn pistol in my hand.
In a just world, Rittenhouse walks from these charges. But, sadly, this is not a just world and they're going to pull out everything they can to get some bullshite conviction.
I fear this kid won't get a reasonable jury, I really do.
Any reasonable person can look at the video evidence of the events in question from their very beginning until the very end. That reasonable person would then inarguably conclude that Kyle's actions were 100% self defense. The kid even showed a shitload of restraint- something I wouldn't have had in that situation. The anqueefa thug that Kyle "disarmed" (
) was advancing on him with a fricking pistol in his hand FFS. That's after a pedophile tried to assault him from behind and take his rifle, and after another anqueefa loser tried to take Kyle's fricking head off with a skateboard. ...If I see a scared kid with a high powered rifle on the ground with that rifle pointed at me, the last fricking thing I'm going to do is advance on him while trying to hide the goddamn pistol in my hand.
In a just world, Rittenhouse walks from these charges. But, sadly, this is not a just world and they're going to pull out everything they can to get some bullshite conviction.
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:37 pm to HubbaBubba
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How many here have contributed to his defense?
*raises hand*
I was permabanned from Twitter for calling this Patriot a hero. frick Twitter.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 12:27 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Just tell me if the Judge is a radical left partisan or not. In a fair trial, 12 people will not convict Rittenhouse of anything.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:47 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Their Lord and Savior Barack Obama could testify on Kyle's behalf and it might not be enough.
Our justice system only works for some people.
Our justice system only works for some people.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 2:38 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Based Kyle has literal ANTIFA scalps on the wall.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 2:39 am
Posted on 10/6/21 at 3:27 am to Bobby OG Johnson
This might be the easiest slam dunk self defense case I've ever seen. The whole thing is on camera its a shame this is even in doubt
Posted on 10/6/21 at 4:53 am to DaleGribble
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Anyone with a pair of eyeballs can see that his life was in danger
The first dude was chasing him with an angry mob. He was harassing him and he was singled out and cornered.
The second was assaulting him.
The third had a gun pointed at him.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:49 am to fjlee90
To the point of the article, I don’t think this expert in use-of-force will be able to testify. What he is testifying about is THE jury question in the case.
So, question is can this expert’s training, experience and/or education add anything more to the evaluation of THE question that is not already within the common knowledge of the jury? Doesn’t seem like he could, but who knows.
The real expert to help this would be a “human factors” expert and biomechanical. Human factors to discuss the scene around him at the time and the reaction times with which Rittenhouse had to make life and death decisions. Human factors experts would be able to help the jury identify how each of these escalating events would shorten rittenhiuse’s peeception reaction times to make these led/death decisions. Including the fake hands up, going to shoot guy that got shot.
The biomechanical guy can talk about what forces the skateboard and kick to the head would have put upon rittenhouse (and whether the kick would have altered his mental state when making subsequent decisions). This would show that the skateboard and kick were possibly deadly forces (as everyone already knows the gun lowering would have been deadly).
Then, the human factors guy can also use the biomechanical testimony about the skateboard and kick to head to show how that impacted rittenhouse to shorten his perception reaction times even further for the gun lowering (flinched from having already been attacked—once bitten twice shy).
This high profile stuff is interesting, but it begins and ends with the jurors. Jury selection could take a week (or more) if they’re being deliberate enough.
He should walk, but the media has already poisoned the well...
So, question is can this expert’s training, experience and/or education add anything more to the evaluation of THE question that is not already within the common knowledge of the jury? Doesn’t seem like he could, but who knows.
The real expert to help this would be a “human factors” expert and biomechanical. Human factors to discuss the scene around him at the time and the reaction times with which Rittenhouse had to make life and death decisions. Human factors experts would be able to help the jury identify how each of these escalating events would shorten rittenhiuse’s peeception reaction times to make these led/death decisions. Including the fake hands up, going to shoot guy that got shot.
The biomechanical guy can talk about what forces the skateboard and kick to the head would have put upon rittenhouse (and whether the kick would have altered his mental state when making subsequent decisions). This would show that the skateboard and kick were possibly deadly forces (as everyone already knows the gun lowering would have been deadly).
Then, the human factors guy can also use the biomechanical testimony about the skateboard and kick to head to show how that impacted rittenhouse to shorten his perception reaction times even further for the gun lowering (flinched from having already been attacked—once bitten twice shy).
This high profile stuff is interesting, but it begins and ends with the jurors. Jury selection could take a week (or more) if they’re being deliberate enough.
He should walk, but the media has already poisoned the well...
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 5:51 am
Posted on 10/6/21 at 6:16 am to Tigers2010a
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Just tell me if the Judge is a radical left partisan or not. In a fair trial, 12 people will not convict Rittenhouse of anything.
Haven't heard much about him but the fact he put Rit's bail at something like $2 million makes me pause.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 6:50 am to BuckyCheese
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Haven't heard much about him but the fact he put Rit's bail at something like $2 million makes me pause.
Fair point. My understanding of bail (which could be way off) is it is set linear to the flight risk. Kyle literally surrendered to police right after the shooting. Or tried to at least. Not much risk in a guy that shoots 3 perps and surrenders immediately.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:05 am to Bobby OG Johnson
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Kyle Rittenhouse decisions to shoot were reasonable, use-of-force expert testifies
Well, duh. The only thing he is guilty of is being a dummy and putting himself into a dangerous situation. However, under the law his use of deadly force was entirely justified.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:27 am to Bobby OG Johnson
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Others, including some liberals and activists, portray him as a domestic terrorist and say he made a volatile situation worse by bringing a rifle to the streets of Kenosha
I guess the convicted fellow with a handgun who confronted him gets a pass?
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:40 am to Bobby OG Johnson
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portray him as a domestic terrorist and say he made a volatile situation worse by bringing a rifle to the streets of Kenosha.
Remember, the guy scrubbing off graffiti is the domestic terrorist.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:53 am to Bobby OG Johnson
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Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger argued that Black is an expert in the use of force by police, not civilians.
What a piece of garbage that ADA is. If it's a situation where use of force is justified, it is ALWAYS a situation where use of force is justified. Not just for police.
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He also questioned whether Rittenhouse would have been justified in using lethal force if he hadn't had a gun.
Wouldn't matter. Rittenhouse would be dead or hospitalized. Which is to say yes, lethal force would have been justified, but he wouldn't have been able to dole it out.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 7:54 am
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:04 am to Noahcount
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If he walks the CommuLeft will go apeshit
And if he doesn't then let's get it started right the frick now.
Because if he gets convicted then what little hope people are clinging to that their little bubbles won't burst will be gone, in my opinion.
3 morons attack and would have injured or killed this kid and he gets convicted for defending himself because the left wants to make a political statement that you have no rights and better fall in line. frick that.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:16 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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My understanding of bail (which could be way off) is it is set linear to the flight risk
Flight risk
Danger to the community
Severity of the charges
Rap sheet
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:17 am to lsu1919
The people that were causing all the unrest are gone and they’re not coming back. That’s all they are, a bunch of pos shite starters.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:22 am to Bobby OG Johnson
But he is white.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:25 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:35 am to Bobby OG Johnson
I was watching WVUE yesterday and twice they said that "Rittenhouse was chasing" the first guy he shot.. WTF is this misinformation? It was Shelly Brown..
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