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KY Congressman Massie take Buttegieg to school on EV's
Posted on 7/27/22 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 7/27/22 at 3:34 pm
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Posted on 7/27/22 at 3:37 pm to newmexicotiger
Saw this the other day. Leftists can't see 2 feet down the road.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 3:47 pm to newmexicotiger
I honestly thought that the back and forth between the two was pretty civil and no one scored any win over the other. Massie raised some good points and Buttegieg answered them pretty well.
Now if Massie used his degree and outlined specific needs and challenged the administration to respond, that would be a productive conversation.
Now if Massie used his degree and outlined specific needs and challenged the administration to respond, that would be a productive conversation.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 3:51 pm to newmexicotiger
That doesn't even get into the fact that we don't have anything even close the manufacturing capacity needed to reach Biden's goals.
The average US auto sales per year runs around 17M units. Our current max production capacity is only ~700k units per year.
You can't push something which doesn't exist. Well, I guess you can but it will fail miserably.
The average US auto sales per year runs around 17M units. Our current max production capacity is only ~700k units per year.
You can't push something which doesn't exist. Well, I guess you can but it will fail miserably.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:15 pm to mmcgrath
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Buttegieg answered them pretty well
With word salad...Buttplug offered no actual details of anything. Just we need to have our infrastructure ready and how they are working with and inventing all these garbage tax-money burning agencies to find ways to improve.
I thought it was hilarious that he said it doesn't sit well with him or the admin about how far behind the US's EV/Green Energy adoption is....lol. Who the F' are we supposed to mimic...Europe, it's working out splendidly for them right now.
Don't know what video you were watching but that was par for the course as far as his contributions to this country.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:16 pm to Bard
quote:Manufacturing the EV's isn't even the biggest problem. Its charging them.
That doesn't even get into the fact that we don't have anything even close the manufacturing capacity needed to reach Biden's goals.
Look at Texas and California. Parts of both states have electrical grids that are already strained to the point of having rolling blackouts at times during peak usage in summer because everyone is running their AC units all day. Now add in all the additional power capacity needed to run everything you already do, plus charging hundreds of thousands of EV's.
Not to mention coastal areas where a hurricane could knock power out to large areas for weeks at a time. If you don't have an ICE vehicle or gas generator, you're screwed once you need to charge your EV
Posted on 7/27/22 at 4:28 pm to MadtownTiger
quote:you mean the countries currently trying to get their coal industry running again after the angry elf shook her finger at europe? Or other countries who are expanding nuclear while we ignore it completely?
Who the F' are we supposed to mimic...Europe, it's working out splendidly for them right now.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:03 pm to MadtownTiger
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Ithought it was hilarious that he said it doesn't sit well with him or the admin about how far behind the US's EV/Green Energy adoption is....lol. Who the F' are we supposed to mimic...
China. They lead the world in alternative energy research and production. And they are way ahead of everyone on EVs.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:12 pm to mmcgrath
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mmcgrath
When this dumb cünt says it’s a draw, you know his guy got absolutely fricked over in the argument.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:13 pm to newmexicotiger
Shouldn't Buttegieg be at home wiping up crap and making bottles instead of expounding on a subject he knows nothing about?
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:20 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
I honestly thought that the back and forth between the two was pretty civil and no one scored any win over the other. Massie raised some good points and Buttegieg answered them pretty well.
Now if Massie used his degree and outlined specific needs and challenged the administration to respond, that would be a productive conversation.
Our d-bag transportation Secretary is pushing a mode of transportation that he has no clue how it actually works. Buttplug had no clue that charging multiple vehicles in a home would triple electricity consumption. So people with kids that drive will have constant $1000+ electric bills. Does that extra electricity need get produced from unicorn farts?
You and your commie friends can eat a bag of AIDS dicks.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:26 pm to newmexicotiger
In layman’s terms, the grid can’t handle the load. The grid will not be able to handle the load in 2030. Think about road construction- how long does it take? Now think about replacing every pole, wire, transformer, substation, power plant- the upgrades required for the majority of residential and commercial electrical services? Like Massie, I’m all for it. At a medium pace, and certainly not at the risk of breaking the middle class.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:31 pm to mmcgrath
There are two problems to solve to make this fantasy a reality and Mayor Pete didn't address either in specifics.
1. The infrastructure is not and will not be ready to handle 50% EV by 2030.
2. What is going to be the power source that generates all of these newly needed gigawatts of power? Natural Gas? Nuclear? Coal? To say solar power or wind is just being comical as neither of those green energies today can generate the power today to power a small down much less 100 million new cars..
1. The infrastructure is not and will not be ready to handle 50% EV by 2030.
2. What is going to be the power source that generates all of these newly needed gigawatts of power? Natural Gas? Nuclear? Coal? To say solar power or wind is just being comical as neither of those green energies today can generate the power today to power a small down much less 100 million new cars..
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:34 pm to CPTDCKHD
neither guy looked very bright in that exchange tbh.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:04 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Manufacturing the EV's isn't even the biggest problem. Its charging them.
I don't disagree. My point was that their rose-colored glasses are so think that they don't realize it's literally impossible to reach the acceptance numbers they are wanting within the timeframe they're pushing.
This putting the cart before the horse also expresses itself in the grid capacity. Buttigieg mentioned working with energy companies to get their infrastructures upgraded but that falls into the same issue of there simply not being the ability to produce all of that in the timeframe Biden is pushing.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:06 pm to newmexicotiger
quote:Butt plug is worthless but we have different definitions of "take to school". I thought it was tit for tat, pretty much.
KY Congressman Massie take Buttegieg to school on EV's
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:15 pm to newmexicotiger
I had not made note of Massie until lately = I am beginning to like him very much. I love his persona - subdued, authoritative, knowledgeable, honest.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:18 pm to Diamondawg
We need to grow the electrical grid by 25X just to support 50% adoption. Zero chance we can grow our grod by 25X in the next 8 years. It takes 3-4 years right now to build a new plant due to all the red tape and requirements. This is all a pipe dream.
2000 power plants in the US. You would need 50K plants to grow 25X. That is 48K new plants in the next 8 years or 16 new ones each day every day for the the next 8 years. You see how stupid all this is.
2000 power plants in the US. You would need 50K plants to grow 25X. That is 48K new plants in the next 8 years or 16 new ones each day every day for the the next 8 years. You see how stupid all this is.
This post was edited on 7/27/22 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:41 pm to newmexicotiger
Massie is completely right about the grid but the idea that half of American drivers will be in $65,000 electric cars by 2030 is even more absurd.
I would love to hear Buttplug explain exactly how they plan to pull that off.
I would love to hear Buttplug explain exactly how they plan to pull that off.
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:41 pm to mmcgrath
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I honestly thought that the back and forth between the two was pretty civil and no one scored any win over the other.
If YOU think this, Buttegieg must have been destroyed.
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