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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:17 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:17 pm
They were half the late night show of Johnny Carson! The good ole days!

Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:20 pm to
great dad joke!

Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:24 pm to
different world now, too many other options to watch for there to be another Carson
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:24 pm to
Carson was the goat! Kimmel wishes he could host a show like Carson, who never had to get political to get laughs. He was just funny, had great timing and it came off as natural. That's why he was so popular. Kimmel thinks that bashing Trump makes him funny, but only to the clapping seals. Fallon is about the only one whose show is decent. He actually had Trump on and the show was great.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:30 pm to
Loved me some Johnny Carson. I would sleep on the couch in high school just so I could watch Johnny. Jonathon Winters was one of his greatest guests.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:31 pm to
Johnny Carson was the all-time King of late-night television. Imo, Letterman was good in his early days before he became too political and grumpy. Conan was good and he mostly kept his left-wing political views out of his show. I also thought that Craig Ferguson was very good, especially how he flirted with the ladies.

But, Carson was the best. Here's a 25-minute clip of a show with Bob Hope, Dean Martin, and George Gobel from 1969 that I found on YouTube a few years ago. With all due respect to Bob Hope, it's Dean Martin and George Gobel who steal the show. Dean walks on as a surprise guest and is hilarious. Then Gobel comes on and says two of the funniest lines ever.

I think I read somewhere that Johnny said this might've been the single best show he ever did.



Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

They were half the late night show of Johnny Carson! The good ole days!


Used to never miss Carson and Jay Leno was pretty good as well. After that-just nothing
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:34 pm to
Some of the classic Carson shows with guys like the Rat Pack all on drinking and smoking telling jokes and riffing on one another.

We were a proper country once upon a time.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 2:49 pm to
I remember when Jack Paar quit the show and they started looking for a host. Before Carson they tried Jerry Lewis. It made sense because he was a zaney funny guy in movies. But as host he totally changed. He was very depressed and not funny. Carson had done some standup comedy but he wasn't really a star. Hosting was his thing.
This post was edited on 5/28/26 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 3:27 pm to
KCT I remember this clip and have laughed about it for 60 yrs.
Great job finding it.
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
50233 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 3:39 pm to
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KCT I remember this clip and have laughed about it for 60 yrs.
Great job finding it.


Thanks. I caught it after the fact, but I watch it now and then because it's hilarious. Dean Martin wasn't even primarily known as a comedian, but he was as funny as anybody. I've heard a few time that, when he and Jerry Lewis broke up as a team in the 1950's, that everybody thought Jerry's career would continue to flourish but Dean's career would end up in the tank.

Boy, were they wrong about that. Dean could do it all, and imo was even much, much funnier than Jerry Lewis. (I liked Jerry, but playing "the fool" simply doesn't age well. I bet that's why Steve Martin transitioned into other things as he got older).
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 4:12 pm to
I’ll have to check this out later. Carson is the definite GOAT.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 4:15 pm to
Johnny hated Bob Hope
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
50233 posts
Posted on 5/28/26 at 4:35 pm to
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Johnny hated Bob Hope


He did. For one thing, they were two of the titans of NBC. I suspect there was a little bit of a low-level rivalry playing out there. Also, Johnny preferred comedians who were spontaneous and didn't need a script. Bob Hope was mostly a scripted joke-teller. If you watch the video, Bob Hope tells a couple of jokes which fall a little flat, and you can tell it bothers him. He wasn't as funny as Dean Martin was at spontaneous humor.

I also suspect it was a bit of a generational thing, too. Which is kind of funny, because Johnny ended up getting a taste of that, too. I read where NBC was showing Johnny Carson re-runs on Saturday and Sunday thru the 1st half of the 1970's. Either Johnny or NBC became worried that The Tonight Show was a little over-saturated, so they came up with a new show called Saturday Night Live.

Johnny was from the World War Ii generation, while the young upstarts on SNL were Boomers (Gilda Radner, Ackroyd, Belushi, etc.). The young guns on SNL preferred comedy that was more sarcastic/irreverent in nature, and they were kind of cool towards Johnny.

Time marches on. Thank God we all survived the 15 minutes of Amy Schumer.
Posted by Wraytex
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Posted on 5/28/26 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by KCT
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