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re: Kim Potter charged with manslaughter

Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:39 am to
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26336 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:39 am to
Not a lawyer,but going by that definition, wouldnt there be a "conscious risk" everytime a cop pulled someone over?
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 11:40 am
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:39 am to
They already fired the city manager to appease the public. That’s gonna cost them a couple million
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13402 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:39 am to
This seems reasonable but I doubt it will please BLM
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297577 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:40 am to
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second-degree manslaughter,


Reasonable
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32993 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:40 am to
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Yep, the word "concieously" is why she gets off.

That's funny considering it's not even a word...
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:41 am to
Yes but nc tiger is harping on the wrong part of the statute.

The statute says the killer has to “create” the unsafe situation.

Defense will argue the deceased “created” the unsafe situation by resisting and putting himself in a situation where cops could frick up and kill him.

It looks like an overcharge to me but they’ll plea down to something.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:41 am to
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Going to be hard to convince me that simply pulling the wrong weapon means you are guilty of a crime.




She is a 24 year veteran, a woman in a males world and diversity is our strength, have to argue based on her merit this was her body doing exactly what we hope to all reach, acting upon muscle memory and reacting to the situation presented without haziness of the mind
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135728 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:42 am to
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I’m arguing your assertion that accidents aren’t included in manslaughter 2
So you're inventing a statement on my behalf. That's one way of arguing I guess.

Your statement was "Accidentally killing someone is the literal definition."

Presumably you were referencing Potter.
Accidentally killing an uncooperative perp does not in and of itself establish guilt of any crime, much less second degree manslaughter.
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:42 am to
Or a conscious risk when an accused armed robber that had his bail revoked for missing a court appearance ............
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3786 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:43 am to
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consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another


So tasers have never caused great bodily harm or death? Because she consciously took that chance. She was then negligent in the handling of her equipment.

I don’t know what the lesser charge says but a good prosecutor could convince 12 self hating Scandinavian whites in MN (or some combination of self hating whites and minorities) that the officer is guilty. I wouldn’t take those chances if it were me being charged.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:44 am to
No, I was stating killing someone without intent to kill them falls under most manslaughter statutes.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135728 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:45 am to
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She'll lose her job and be placed on a lengthy probation
I believe she resigned.
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:46 am to
Kid on Fort Polk dropped a hit of acid and when the DAC Policeman tased him, his heart frickin exploded.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8079 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:46 am to
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Lesson here kiddos is that in anything you do, you need to react as though that is what you meant to do.




I would say just the opposite in this case.

Her surprise and shock demonstrates she did not intend to use her service pistol.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:48 am to
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Going to be hard to convince me that simply pulling the wrong weapon means you are guilty of a crime.



This is a gross overreach. I hope every cop in Minnesota walks the frick off the job. In Georgia, at best this is the misdemeanor grade of involuntary mans, and is best left to be resolved in civil court.
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:49 am to
Murder in Minnesota.

Given the social issues
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32119 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:49 am to
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Are they supposed to let a criminal drive away and put the community at risk?


In Dementia Joe's America, yes.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1844 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:50 am to
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Going to be hard to convince me that simply pulling the wrong weapon means you are guilty of a crime.


Looks like I'll have to tase you so you'll agree.
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Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:55 am to
I'm guessing they have various degrees of manslaughter there, so this is probably appropriate. Negligence, which it appears she is guilty of, is a component of several forms of manslaughter, so this seems right.

She did not murder him, so murder charges are out of the question.

This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 11:57 am
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10996 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:56 am to
I feel really bad for her. She made a bad mistake, but it was a mistake that was made in a matter of seconds and as a result of someone else’s poor decision.

She should be fired as she is clearly not fit to be an officer at this point, but I don’t see why her life should be ruined by prison time.
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