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re: Kids are being taken from ‘non-affirming’ parents.

Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:30 am to
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SlowFlowPro


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:31 am to
You’re playing semantic games while it’s obvious that Federal policy (whether in the form of letters, lawsuits, etc.) changes things. I don’t know why you’re insistent on being an IYI. You don’t have to be. But you’re committed to it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:31 am to
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No, the point you tried to make when you said that Biden had 4 years and didn't create policy


You're crawfishing.

This is what I ressopnded to:

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Do you think the candidate wanting to use federal funds to pay for illegal alien youth gender transition procedures wouldn't also try and push the same sort of legislation


Legislation =/= policy

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That's a shite point to make and I'm glad you conceded it.


Nope.

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When did I say policy was passed?


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Do you think the candidate wanting to use federal funds to pay for illegal alien youth gender transition procedures wouldn't also try and push the same sort of legislation


Exactly my point. They weren't. Legislation is also a lot harder than rulemaking, but I gave you some rope.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:31 am to
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Ackshually.

You just tried to do that to me
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:32 am to
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Never happened.


Review the808bass's posting history.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:33 am to
Yes. I corrected a shite assertion you made.

We’re still correcting shite assertions you’re making. We can stop when you stop making shite accusations. Or if you’re crying because your feelings are hurt, we can stop because of that. Just let us know.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467878 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:33 am to
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You’re playing semantic games


This is a crawfish.

I replied specifically to specific posts.

I asked specific questions using intentional language.

You don't get to change what is said to try to make a point. That's intellectual dishonesty, and ad hom name-calling won't change that fact.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467878 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:34 am to
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Yes. I corrected a shite assertion you made.

You attempted to and failed to do so.

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Or if you’re crying because your feelings are hurt, we can stop because of that. Just let us know.


When SFP is proven right, the ad hom attacks begin
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:34 am to
You tried to change the metric by which one measures government interaction. You tried to change the topic. You tried to run down a side street to avoid the substance of the conversation. Which is what you always do.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125763 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:35 am to
I start with ad hominem attacks. I don’t resort to them at the end, fig.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:36 am to
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When SFP is proven right,


If you keep shifting the narratives enough, you'll be right at some point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467878 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:38 am to
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You tried to change the metric by which one measures government interaction

Where? By using rules instead of legislation?

I did that to help him. Rules are much easier to come by than legislation, which was the metric he used to measure government interaction.

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You tried to change the topic.

Are you really arguing bureaucratic rules (which are based in legislative powers) are that different from legislation?

Ok, fine.

What legislation was passed?

Will make your job much more difficult, but fine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:39 am to
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You tried to change the metric


Thats how he "wins."
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
1173 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:39 am to
Thats fine, that one is defected.
I can make a new one.
Ya'll keep it.

How I see my great grandfather responding.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10330 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:39 am to
Anyone who supports or supported gay marriage should also support this. It's all along the same slippery slope, we warned everyone, and we were called nuts for saying this would follow. Either admit you were wrong about gay marriage or accept this as the new normal. You don't get to live in your make believe neutral zone.
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 9:40 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:41 am to
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You're crawfishing.


I misspoke.

No, the point you tried to make when you said that Biden had 4 years and didn't create such legislation.

I'm glad you've abandoned that shite point, though.

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Nope.


So how do you explain the states who didn't remove children from non-affirming parents for decades now doing it? Your logic says people shouldn't have been worried about it happening because it hadn't happened before.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467878 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:44 am to
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Anyone who supports or supported gay marriage should also support this.

No. That's not logical.

Removing government barriers and decreasing the size of government (gay marriage) is nothing like supporting an overbearing, large, and intrusive government (this story).
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:46 am to
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What does Trump have to do with this, specifically?

I know MAGA likes to play the "abortion is a state issue exclusively" (which likely isn't correct) card to thwart discussion on abortion in the Presidential race, but this is literally a "exclusive state issue" example.

A person can easily be against this behavior at the state/local level and not support Trump, because there is no overlap.


So let me get this straight...

Despite Kamala wanting to use federal dollars to fund illegal immigrant child transition procedures, and despite progressive states removing children from "non-gender affirming parents", and despite numerous federal agencies that deal with health and child welfare state their stances are that it's harmful for children to remain with "non-gender affirming parents", you feel the need to step into a conversation about "what if" Kamala is able to push this crap at a federal level with the intent to derail it?

Does that about sum it up?
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 9:48 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467878 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:47 am to
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No, the point you tried to make when you said that Biden had 4 years and didn't create such legislation.

I'm glad you've abandoned that shite point, though.


That was YOUR point, bubba, but you "misspoke". You are the one who said "legislation" and I replied to your words.

You now claiming you "misspoke" and removing "legislation" off the table of the discussion is you abandoning the point.

This is what I actually posted:

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What does Trump have to do with this, specifically?

I know MAGA likes to play the "abortion is a state issue exclusively" (which likely isn't correct) card to thwart discussion on abortion in the Presidential race, but this is literally a "exclusive state issue" example.

A person can easily be against this behavior at the state/local level and not support Trump, because there is no overlap.



This is what you actually replied with:

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o you think the candidate wanting to use federal funds to pay for illegal alien youth gender transition procedures wouldn't also try and push the same sort of legislation to remove kids from "non-gender affirming parents" that we've seen in progressive states?


The rest flowed from this.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15189 posts
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:49 am to
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Anyone who supports or supported gay marriage should also support this. It's all along the


Negative.
Gay marriage allows people to live life as they choose
Taking kids from parents punishes the parents from living life as they choose.
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