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re: Kent State will not remove "art" with Trump's head on a pike
Posted on 4/17/25 at 5:49 pm to Night Vision
Posted on 4/17/25 at 5:49 pm to Night Vision
Seems like he's saying they moved it to a place where you are given a content warning before viewing.
If so, I guess I'm okay with that.
If so, I guess I'm okay with that.
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:13 pm to Night Vision
Once brick solves it.
National Guard did nothing wrong.
National Guard did nothing wrong.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:18 pm to Godfather1
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suppose you’d be fine with a pic of Obama with a noose around his neck, right?
Yeah people absolutely had a right to make and share images of that during his presidency.
Like the hang in there Obama sign you can see with a noose. Do I immediately judge the person holding that sign or they made it. Sure. But they have a right to make it.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:22 pm to Icansee4miles
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So posting a picture of a noose around Obama’s neck is ok?
Or just a noose by itself. A piece of hemp rope by itself is enough to claim RACIST.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:25 pm to oklahogjr
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Like the hang in there Obama sign you can see with a noose. Do I immediately judge the person holding that sign or they made it. Sure. But they have a right to make it.
Your opinion is irrelevant. It's Kent State's opinion that matters, or any other instititution that receives govt funds. They need to be consistent across the spectrum of ideologies or the words "free speech" are meaningless.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:28 pm to wdhalgren
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It's Kent State's opinion that matters, or any other instititution that receives govt funds. They need to be consistent across the spectrum of ideologies or the words "free speech" are meaningless.
Do you have examples where they banned art by conservatives
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:33 pm to oklahogjr
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Do you have examples where they banned art by conservatives
I could probably search and find lots of things that have been banned both on both sides; probably a MAGA hat not allowed in a public school, or an "All lives matter" t-shirt, or a sign with "from the river to the sea". I'm saying if that particular art is okay, that standard it should be applied consistently around the country. That includes speech that some people find hateful, or offensive, or triggering, or even potentially violent. Free means free and equal.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:41 pm to wdhalgren
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could probably search and find similar things that have been banned both on both sides; probably a MAGA hat not allowed in a public school, or an "All live matter" t-shirt. I'm saying if that particular art is okay, that standard it should be applied consistently around the country. That includes speech that some people find hateful, or offensive, or triggering. Free means free and equal.
Ok I don't disagree in general but your premise and commentary seem to indicate you're just making assumptions about the other side and you don't have evidence of them suppressing conservative art .
Also notice how you went from its kent states opinion to I could find somewhere someone banned maga apparel which is not really applicable to my point
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:43 pm to Night Vision
would they allow it if it was Kamala or Obama's head?
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:45 pm to Night Vision
Need to send the Guard in again with live rounds.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:47 pm to oklahogjr
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Ok I don't disagree in general but your premise and commentary seem to indicate you're just making assumptions about the other side and you don't have evidence of them suppressing conservative art
I already said I'm open to discussion because it's a tough subject. In my first post I said someone should test it out at Kent State. It's no secret that colleges and universities tend to lean left. Some of that swung back in the last couple of years with the Israel vs palestine protests, but still considerably more left than right.
As long as it's just words and pictures, I'm okay with most speech, less so with direct harassment. But I'd like to see colleges and universities complete own that philosophy. If they allow outside speakers on campus, don't discriminate. If professors espouse left wing orthodoxy, allow the same for the right. Or don't allow it at all.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:51 pm to wdhalgren
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already said I'm open to discussion because it's a tough subject. In my first post I said someone should test it out. It's no secret that colleges and universities tend to lean left. Some of that swung back in the last couple of years with the Israel vs palestine protests, but still considerably more left than right.
As long as it's peaceful, I'm okay with most speech, but I'd like to see colleges and universities complete own that philosophy. If they allow outside speakers on campus, don't discriminate, etc.
They should. Arkansas always had a good mix of all kinds coming in. No one should be scared of ideas. That's how stupid ideas get sold to people, by letting them hide in shadows and outgroups. Free speech has to be allowed even when it's hateful or contrary to my beliefs. No faster way to see how stupid white supremacy is ,as an example, than to let people hear their ideas and see how ridiculously dumb it is.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:51 pm to teke184
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Yet DKE posting Kent State shooting messages before their game against LSU is somehow in bad taste.
Well yeah it's in bad taste
But this could reasonably be interpreted as an actual call for violence and should not be treated as regular speech or expression
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:53 pm to Crimson Wraith
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GP is an excellent source.
Almost all of their articles are click bait and can not be corroborated anywhere else
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:54 pm to Night Vision
They’d have a better argument if the wording wasn’t there, but that wording is a clear threat and inciting violence
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:54 pm to oklahogjr
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They should. Arkansas always had a good mix of all kinds coming in. No one should be scared of ideas. That's how stupid ideas get sold to people, by letting them hide in shadows and outgroups. Free speech has to be allowed even when it's hateful or contrary to my beliefs. No faster way to see how stupid white supremacy is ,as an example, than to let people hear their ideas and see how ridiculously dumb it is.
Exactly, and about half the country would feel the same way about radical leftist dialog that's become so common. Exposure on campus is a great way for young people to hear opposing points of view and decide for themself. Maybe views would moderate on both sides.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:55 pm to Night Vision
Arrest them then let the USSC decide.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:55 pm to Powerman
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Almost all of their articles are click bait and can not be corroborated anywhere else
Gateway pundit is absolute trash. Even jjdoc doesn't post it anymore.
Although I think I preferred the jjdoc threads to the Barron reposting Eric Daughtry tweets. jjdoc was much better at OPs.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:49 pm to Icansee4miles
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So posting a picture of a noose around Obama’s neck is ok?
With a statement that says something like... "fundamentally transforming America = guilty of treason"
Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:20 pm to Night Vision
I don’t think inciting violence is protected under the constitution
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