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re: Kamala's "Jamaican grandfather of African descent"

Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:10 am to
No. Her maternal grandparents are Indian.

Her paternal grandparents are black and white. Just not sure who is black and who is white. I’m thinking the paternal grand mother is black
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Upon further review, I'm thinking that her paternal grandfather was a full Indian who just liked hanging out with black people in black countries. That where he met this lady in Jamaica (Kamala's parternal grandmother.




Dude you're all over the map.


Her mother's side is Indian.

Her father's side is Jamaican.

The photo you've posted here is Beryl Harris. Her Dad's mother.



And your OP makes zero sense. Your title says this is her Jamaican grandfather, then you posted a picture of her Uncle who lives in India and a bio of her Indian grandfather.
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103174 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

I mean, she did go to a HBCU. She probably claims both when it is convenient, because that is what politicians do.


Find out if she was on a “minority scholarship” to Howard, as a number of HBCUs will do that to raise non-black enrollment.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:11 am to
Heels up niece who isn’t bad looking seems to be pretty white
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26376 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:12 am to
quote:

He came our and said he identifies as CAUCASIAN.


So he got to choose how he identified? Hmmmm
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18870 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:14 am to
Exactly. She’s pretending to be a southern black woman but she’s not. She’s “not like them”.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46493 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:15 am to
Ok that answers my question.

Paternal grandmother is black
Paternal grandfather must be the white one
Posted by Paytonisablowhard
Member since Feb 2024
1187 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:16 am to
Kinda off topic but, notice how they are Jamaican, black people in England are English,etc... Only in America is every black person African American. Hell even Kamala who according to their rules should be classified as Jamaican American is African American.


News flash to these idiots, black Africans arrived in Jamaica in the 16th via the same slave trade that brought them to America
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8411 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:16 am to
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The photo you've posted here is Beryl Harris. Her Dad's mother.



I admit that I may be wrong and become easily confused by branches of family trees, but wouldn't Kamala's "dad's mother" be Kamala's "paternal grandmother?"
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86477 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:16 am to
quote:

If you're Jamaican then you are black.


lol what?

White Jamaicans are Jamaican people whose ancestry lies within the continent of Europe, most notably Great Britain and Ireland.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8411 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:17 am to
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This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 10:18 am
Posted by 94LSU
Member since May 2023
986 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:17 am to
Here, I can't remember where this originated but think it's from a geneology reddit

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Kamala Devi Harris, Born October 20th 1964 as Kamala Iyer Harris, was the Daughter of Donald Jasper Harris (Father 8/23/1938 and Shyamala Gopalan (Mother 12/7/1938

On her maternal side, Kamala’s Mother Shamala was the daughter of Painganadu Venkataraman Gopalan (Grandfather 1911) and Rajam Rajah (Grandmother 1923)

Her Grandfather Painganadu was son of Venkataraman Iyer Gopalan (Great G.F.) and Seethalakshmi Iyer (Great G.M.).

Her Grandmother Rajam was the daughter Maruthukud V (Great G.F) and Meenakshi R Aiyar (Great G.M. 1980) All recorded Ancestors on Kamala’s maternal side are from India.

On her Paternal side, Kamala’s father’s Donald was the son of Oscar Joseph Harris (Grandfather 04/05/1914) and Beryl Christie Finegan (Grandmother 1921)

Kamala’s Paternal Grandfather’s Side:

Oscar was the Son of Joseph Alexander Harris (Great Grandfather 4/24/1871) and Christiana Brown (Great Grandmother 8/13/1888

Joseph was the son of James Henny Harris (G.G. Grandfather) and Elizabeth (Eliza) Brown (G.G. Grandmother 1834)

James is descendant of Thomas Harris (G.G.G. Grandfather 1784) of England and Catherine Jane Watson (G.G.G. Grandmother 1792) of Scotland.

Elizabeth was the daughter of Thomas Brown (G.G.G. Grandfather 1816) of Scotland and Mary Ann Taylor (G.G.G. Grandmother 1792) of Scotland.

Christiana was the Daughter of Hamilton Brown (G.G. Grandfather 11/9/1833) and Jessian Prince (G.G. Grandmother 1844)

Hamilton Brown was to the son of Kate Williams (English Decent and Hamilton Brown Sr. (G.G.G. Grandfather 1776) from Ireland.

Jessian was the daughter of William Prince (G.G.G Grandfather of English Decent) and Sahra Forbes (G.G.G. Grandmother)

Kamala’s Paternal Grandmother’s Side:

Beryl Was the daughter of Patrick Alhanasous Finnegan (Great Grandfather 1882) and Orah Iris Allen (Great Grandmother 8/13/1888

Patrick was the Son of Patrick Finnegan (G.G. Grandfather 1843) From Ireland and Mary Watson (G.G. Grandmother 1836) from Ireland.

Orah was the daughter of John Allen (G.G. Grandfather 1858 and Joanna Elizabeth Moses (G.G. Grandmother 1868

John Allen and Joanna relationship is where it gets more difficult to track

Joanna is the Daughter of Peter Moses (G.G.G. Grandfather 1920) the Son of Charles A. Moses (G.G.G.G Grandfather 179-8

Joanna Married Alfred Augustus McCook (1864) on May 2nd 1894 after the birth of Orah, McCook’s lineage is traced back through John McCook who’s family Linage is from Ireland.

However, I could find no ancestry before 1858 for John Allen.

This leaves Kamala’s Ancestry as follows:

Mom's Side:

Great GF Indian

Great GM Indian

Great GF Indian

Great GM Indian

GF/FM 100% Indian -> Mother Indian -> Kamala 50% Indian

Dad's Side

GGGG GF English

GGGG GM Scottish

GGGG GF Scottish

GGGG GM Scottish

GGGG GF Irish

GGGG GM English

GGGG GF English

GGGG GM Unknown

GGGG GF Irish

GGGG GM Irish

GGGG GF Irish

GGGG GM Irish

GGGG GF Unknown

GGGG GM Unknown

GGGG GF Unknown

GGGG GM Unknown

Out of the 16 Paternal Ancestor, 11 are from United Kingdom (34.375%) and (5) are not confirmed (15.625%)

Looking at Photos it appears Christiana Brown (Kamala’s Great Grand Mother, Miss Chrishy, as referred to by Donald J. Harris) is of of mixed decent.

Looking at Photos it appears Orah Irish Allen (Kamala’s other Great Grand Mother, Miss Iris, as referred to by Donald J. Harris) is also of mixed decent.

TLDR: This would mean Kamala is 50% Indian, & 37.5% European, & 12.5% Jamaican .
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 10:19 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55435 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:19 am to
So what percentage was in the slave trade?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86477 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:19 am to
quote:

I figured that Grandma was Indian too, but apparently I was wrong. I stand corrected


indian woman

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86477 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:21 am to
Indians

Posted by 3rdgentgr
Member since Jan 2011
902 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:22 am to
I would love to see her college and law school applications and see what box she checked
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86477 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:22 am to
Indian men of different shades


Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46493 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Oscar Joseph Harris


pretty sure this dude is white. he's been memory holed and no images of him are online, but he's the white Scots/Irish link?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39866 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:23 am to
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So he got to choose how he identified? Hmmmm


You really want to try and make the argument that it is okay to choose which race you identify as depending on what is politically advantageous? Is that the point you are trying to make here equating this with what Kamala is doing?

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46493 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 10:24 am to
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Indian men of different shades


remember this guy?
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