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Justin Haskins: In 2020, socialism could flip Minnesota -- and the election -- to Trump

Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:45 pm
Posted by AUFan2015
Oneonta, Alabama
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:45 pm
Fox News

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Almost no one expected Donald Trump to win the 2016 presidential election, but his campaign’s strategy to focus on disaffected Midwest voters long abandoned by the Democratic Party leadership paid off in a big way. A majority of voters in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and, perhaps most surprisingly, Wisconsin, all pulled the lever in favor of Trump.

To win a second term, Trump is going to need a similar level of success in the Midwest, and it looks as though Minnesota, which has long been thought of as an iron-clad Democratic stronghold, could be a big part of his 2020 strategy — and for good reason.

?Without Minnesota, the Democratic presidential candidate — regardless of who wins the primary race — would face a nearly insurmountable uphill battle.

For example, even if the Democratic challenger were to flip Michigan and Pennsylvania to his or her side, it still wouldn’t be enough to win if Trump were to hold every other state he captured in 2020 and wins in Minnesota.
Winning Minnesota would also mean that Trump could lose Florida and Arizona — two states he won in 2016 — and still end up with more than the required 270 electoral votes.

Of course, beating the Democratic challenger in Minnesota is easier said than done. No Republican presidential candidate has won in Minnesota since Richard Nixon in 1972.





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But Trump is not a “normal” Republican. He only lost Minnesota by a little more than 40,000 votes in 2016. Mitt Romney lost by more than 200,000.
And that only tells part of the story.

Many Republicans concerned about Trump voted for Libertarian Gary Johnson, who received more than 112,000 votes, or conservative Trump critic Evan McMullin, who garnered more than 53,000 votes.

It’s unlikely similar candidates will get the same level of support in 2020, which means Trump should have a better shot in Minnesota than he did in 2016.
Trump also dramatically outperformed other Republicans running for statewide offices in 2012, 2014 and 2018.

There’s another great reason to believe Trump has a good shot of winning Minnesota: Democrats are increasingly moving away from the policies swing voters in the state have long valued in favor of radical progressivism and even socialism.

Democrats have moved so far to the left during the current election cycle that it’s becoming difficult to tell the difference between their party's platform and the platform of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Democrats no longer represent the party of John F. Kennedy or Bill Clinton. If Minnesota’s more moderate Democrats realize that, it could mean huge trouble for whomever the party’s left-wing base chooses to face off against Trump.

And there’s a great reason to believe they will take notice thanks in part to freshman Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar.



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To say Omar has had an absolutely disastrous first term in office would be an understatement.

Not only has she been plagued by questions about potential violations of campaign finance rules and immigration laws and remarks some have deemed to be anti-Semitic, she has also routinely advocated for some of the most radical, socialistic policies offered in decades — including "Medicare-for-All," the "cancellation" of all student loan debt, and the craziest proposal of all: the Green New Deal.

The Green New Deal, the brainchild of fellow socialist radical New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, would destroy millions of jobs by completely eliminating the fossil-fuel industry — almost overnight — and forcing people to purchase much more expensive renewable energy.

It would also impose other socialist schemes, including basic income programs, a federal jobs guarantee, single-payer health care, a slew of “social justice” programs, and a whole new system of publicly-owned banks.

This radical socialist proposal might be a popular idea among elites in parts of the Northeast and on the West Coast, but it isn’t the sort of thing middle-of-the-road Democrats have historically backed in the heart of the Midwest.

Earlier in 2019, left-wing Democrats attempted to pass a 100 percent renewable energy mandate, which energy providers in the state would have been forced to comply with by 2050. The destruction of the fossil-fuel industry would be particularly disastrous for Minnesotans.

The Center of the American Experiment estimates just a 50 percent renewable energy requirement would cost the state more than $80 billion and nearly 21,000 lost jobs.

Despite a massive campaign, the mandate failed on a bipartisan basis in the state’s Senate after Minnesotans, thanks in large part to the work of groups like the Center of the American Experiment, realized just how crushing the new law would be.

Such radical policies, mixed with Omar’s far-left views on immigration and her close relationship with socialists like Ocasio-Cortez, have led to a dramatic decline in her popularity nationally and among swing voters, the very people likely to decide the 2020 race in Minnesota and the rest of the Midwest.

A July Economist/YouGov poll found that only 25% of Americans said they have a favorable view of Omar, and an internal Democratic poll of likely swing voters — white voters with two years or less of college education — showed just 9 percent support for Omar. Yes, you read that correctly: 9%. 

This is particularly interesting because, like most states in the Midwest, Minnesota has more non-college-educated white swing voters than many other regions.

By the way, the same survey of likely swing voters also found support for socialism is just 18 percent, another good sign for Trump.

Omar won her far-left congressional district in 2018 by more than 50 percentage points, earning more than 78% of the vote, so it’s unlikely she’s in any danger of losing her seat in 2020.

However, Minnesota-based media reports have suggested her antics have raised doubts among some voters in the state, although by just how much remains to be seen.

Democrats might point to preliminary 2020 polling that shows Trump’s approval rating among Minnesotans isn’t high as proof that he is likely to lose the state again, but it’s important to remember pollsters performed terribly in 2016 in the Midwest.

For example, the two final surveys conducted in Minnesota prior to the 2016 election (according to Real Clear Politics) showed Trump losing by an average of 9 percentage points. He ended up losing by less than 2.

Similarly, the final survey conducted in Wisconsin predicted Trump would lose by 8 percentage points. He won the state.

If Trump can paint the 2020 election as a choice between his economic achievements — Minnesota now has the 14th best unemployment rate in the nation — and the radical socialism of Ilhan Omar, it’s very possible Democrats could be in for another very rough election night.




TL;DR: Trump would've won Minnesota in 2016 if McMullin and Johnson hadn't run.

The Democratic Party and people like Rep. Omar have moved too far left by pushing socialist policies. So if Trump can get the more moderate Democrats in Minnesota to vote for him, he has a great chance to win Minnesota in 2020 ( along with the election.)
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 2:46 am
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90511 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:48 pm to
That's a long arse post

But 2020 is gonna be a bloodbath
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49281 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 7:57 pm to
Trump won by running off being anti establishment, draining the swamp, anti war, anti outsourcing.

So far he's still surrounded by establishment people, we're still involved in those proxy wars Obama and Bush put us in, and we've lost 93,000 jobs to outsourcing.

Now he's said he wants to leave Syria and Afghanistan soon but he needs to follow up on that before 2020 or at least early 2020.

Another thing that helped Trump was just how awful of a candidate Hillary was. She was the dictionary definition of out of touch establishment. She also has a shady history and that's being very generous. She simply an unlikable person overall and could only run off identity politics.

Let's face it, no candidate the Dems will put out will be as bad as her. Biden is the closest and then probably Harris. If someone like Bernie wins it won't be as easy. He's going to need to attack policy and his character which was what made the win against Hillary not as shocking.

Sure you can try to point to Venezuela when debating to Bernie but he'll just point to the Scandinavian countries. And this is where we'll see just how popular or unpopular Bernie's ideas truly are. If they're popular then Trump is in trouble
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5181 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:37 pm to
Ummmm Sweden’s fricked with their open borders policy and an invasion of aggressive Muslims. Crime has gone up 300 percent. Those in charge are worse than AOC and Omar.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49281 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 8:59 pm to
No candidate has been for open borders. This is just propaganda propped up by the right.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85806 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:08 pm to
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No candidate has been for open borders.


Castro straight up said he was. Decriminalizing border crossings is advocating for open borders.
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65115 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:15 pm to
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No candidate has been for open borders.


Open borders or not; they're acting like the current situation isn't a problem whatsoever and only want to exacerbate it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115833 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:18 pm to
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No candidate has been for open borders. This is just propaganda propped up by the right.




What
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46102 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:21 pm to
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dawgfan24348
No candidate has been for open borders. This is just propaganda propped up


In a technical sense you’re correct. So far there isn’t a Prog/Dim leftist candidate stupid enough to flat out make that declaration with the exception of Sanders but many Dim candidates are signaling moving America further into socialism as a distinct possibility.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49281 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:23 pm to
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Decriminalizing border crossings is advocating for open borders.

No it's not. You will still get turned back and possibly deported if you're here illegally. All it means is that it's no longer a misdemeanor.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:24 pm to
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No candidate has been for open borders. This is just propaganda propped up by the right.


this is not serious statement
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:26 pm to
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No candidate has been for open borders.


keith ellison is. many dems are. whether candiates or not. it is the scum democrat party as we know it now.

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This is just propaganda propped up by the right.




stay mentally delusional and ill socialist
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6207 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:27 pm to
Lying is your hobby or profession?
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:31 pm to
LINK

LINK

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dawgfan24348


never post here again bitch. now run away!
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49281 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:36 pm to
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whether candiates or not

I'm talking about the candidates
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stay mentally delusional and ill socialist


So it's not propaganda when Fox News claims Democratitc candidates are propping up open border when none of them are?

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Fat Bastard

This is about the candidates try to keep up
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 9:38 pm
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 11:08 pm to
Tldr:

The only reason Trump lost MN in 2016 was because of that cock sucking stoner (Johnson) and that cock sucking spook (McMuffin).

frick every dumb arse GOPer that voted for those losers.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 11:10 pm to
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So it's not propaganda when Fox News claims Democratitc candidates are propping up open border when none of them are


Did you even watch the last debate?

Half those kiddy frickers said they want illegally crossing our border to be decriminalized.

The only ones who want to keep it illegal were the people who won't be invited to the 3rd debate.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81750 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 11:18 pm to
Sir Winston has dibs on this claim of MN flipping red. Dude has been saying it for 5 or 6 months if not longer.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 11:27 pm to
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No candidate has been for open borders. This is just propaganda propped up by the right

You miss the part where they all raised their hand saying they were for healthcare for illegal immigrants and all basically agreed on decriminalizing illegal border crossing, essentially meaning they are for open borders?
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 11:31 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73654 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

No candidate has been for open borders.


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