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re: Just out: Numbers from 3 early primary states

Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107367 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:43 pm to
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HailHailtoMichigan!


I recommend you up your meds, because Trump is coming.
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:43 pm to
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Message Board User


OK groomer
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:44 pm to
Ok, but, today all we have to go on is JoeB is leading. Can anybody just show Trump's path to beating JoeB (other than some hope)? THEN if Biden dies, then we can re-look at hoe Trump could beat Newsome.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73277 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:45 pm to
Trump isn’t going anywhere besides either house arrest or prison

He will be an utter disaster as a nominee and you god damn know it. How will he be able to fund his campaign when all the money is going to legal fees

Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14272 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:45 pm to
Those numbers aren't great for Trump

Without question his base has shrunk since 2020
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25396 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:45 pm to
And those numbers still don’t touch the percentage increase in indictments we have on Trump in the past six months.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73277 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:47 pm to
Don’t bother reasoning with these true believers

None of them live in suburbs where he is toxic sludge

They all live in areas where trump got 90% of the vote

They are sheltered.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107367 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:47 pm to
Your meds, up them. I’m actually trying to help you here given your mental health history.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80339 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:48 pm to
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Can anybody just show Trump's path to beating JoeB


Trump already pulled even in the NYT polls and Biden's brain continues to disintegrate.

His war in Ukraine isn't going well and gas prices are going back up.

The future is a funny thing. You just never really know.
Posted by TwentyFourEight
Member since Jul 2023
114 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:48 pm to
Surprised Scott isn’t polling better in SC
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25254 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:55 pm to
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Why didn’t you post the Reuters poll that showed half of Republican voters won’t vote for trump if he is convicted?


There aren't that many dumb and easily bullied Republicans except the GOPe RINOs.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25396 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:57 pm to
This is from the Wall Street Journal - hardly some liberal rag:

quote:

We need a big score­card to keep track of Don­ald Trump’s le­gal per­ils.

On Tues­day a fed­eral grand jury in­dicted Mr. Trump for con­spir­ing to de­fraud the U.S., con­spir­ing and at­tempt­ing to ob­struct an of­fi­cial pro­ceed­ing, and con­spir­ing to thwart Amer­i­cans’ civil right to have their votes counted.

Mr. Trump was al­ready un­der in­dict­ment on 40 counts for al­legedly re­mov­ing clas­si­fied doc­u­ments from the White House when he left of­fice, mis­han­dling them when he was no longer pres­i­dent, and ob­struct­ing fed­eral au­thor­i­ties af­ter they sub­poe­naed him for their re­turn.

In March, Mr. Trump was in­dicted on du­bi­ous charges in Man­hat­tan for an al­leged cam­paign-fi­nance vi­o­la­tion that hid a $130,000 hush-money pay­ment to porn star Stormy Daniels while he was run­ning for pres­i­dent in 2016.

He also faces an­other defama­tion law­suit by E. Jean Car­roll ask­ing for $10 mil­lion in dam­ages. All this af­ter he was found li­able ear­lier this year for sex­u­ally abus­ing and de­fam­ing Ms. Car­roll, for which the jury awarded her $5 mil­lion. Mr. Trump may also be in­dicted in Geor­gia for at­tempt­ing to over­turn that state’s 2020 elec­tion re­sults.

Mr. Trump has de­nied wrong­do­ing in each case. But if con­victed on these se­ri­ous charges, the for­mer pres­i­dent would, ab­sent a par­don, likely spend the rest of his life in prison.

Mr. Trump is also run­ning to be Amer­i­ca’s next pres­i­dent, which means he has se­ri­ous money com­ing in from sup­port­ers. And his cam­paign fund is start­ing to look more like a le­gal de­fense fund. Mon­day’s Fed­eral Elec­tion Com­mis­sion fundrais­ing re­ports show Mr. Trump has spent more money this year on lawyers than on cam­paign­ing. Politico found that his joint fundrais­ing com­mit­tee took in $53.8 mil­lion from Jan. 1 to June 30 but has spent $57 mil­lion, sup­ple­ment­ing with cash on hand it raised last year. Of that spend­ing, $21.6 mil­lion went to lawyers. That’s more than Team Trump spent on at­tor­neys for all of 2021 and 2022 com­bined, when they put only $16 mil­lion into le­gal ex­penses.

In ad­di­tion, it cost Mr. Trump’s cam­paign $17 mil­lion to raise that nearly $54 mil­lion. That leaves about $18.4 mil­lion for every­thing else—ad­ver­tis­ing, staff, travel, ral­lies and or­ga­ni­za-tion. A case can be made that Team Trump needs less of some of those things—es­pe­cially tele­vi­sion—than other can­di­dates. Still, he’s in­creas­ingly di­vert­ing his cam­paign­ing cash to lawyers. Mr. Trump’s le­gal bills will grow as­tro­nom­i­cally as mul­ti­ple tri­als ap­proach. It’s not clear he can fund his cam­paign and pay his lawyers, es­pe­cially in a gen­eral elec­tion.


LINK

Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and there’s a forest fires worth of smoke surrounding Trump. His campaign will not be able to sustain the legal defenses and a presidential run, and any candidate with this kind of baggage should not be anywhere near the White House. Especially one that tried to disrupt the peaceful transition of power after a lost election.
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:00 pm to
Glad you asked as that is the conversation that needs to take place ...

I'll create a new thread and hopefully you or somebody can reply with some data instead of nonsense.





"What is Rons path?

All you libtards do is say he will win those states cause i say so "
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107367 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:03 pm to
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This is from the Wall Street Journal - hardly some liberal rag:




Good one.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25396 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:03 pm to
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PsychTiger


You missed the “o” in your screen name.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7982 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:04 pm to
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Nationally, Trump is polling at about 54%. His average in these three of the first four states is 39.5%. Tells you that the voters who are getting more exposure to the candidates aren’t as high on Trump as the rest of the country.

I think they are probably thinking things through a little bit more than everyone else. No matter the legal outcome of this farce, Trump will be spending all his time and money on a legal battle. He isn’t a good candidate at this point, whether we like it or not.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107367 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:05 pm to
Oh, you’ve got enough psycho for the both of us. Ask HHTM about his meds, they could benefit you as well.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135780 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:06 pm to
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... does today change Trump being on the (1st) debate stage?
It does. The hack Judge basically threatened Trump with immediate imprisonment if he discusses anything related to the 2020 election or J6.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21988 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:11 pm to
TRUMP
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1185 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:17 pm to
Jjdoc refuses to discuss general election strategy. In fact, all of the cult refuses to discuss the general election.

They scatter like roaches from a light when the GE is brought up.

Why? Because they know Trump is unelectable. 2022 made this crystal clear
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