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Just finished Atlas Shrugged...
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:43 pm
... and we are there. We are living it alongside 1984 and Brave New World. We are living all of them. I implore you to read them all and then pass them on to your children once they are old enough.
I think the most unfortunate thing I took away from it was that the lights of New York City will have to go out before it turns. I found myself begging Ayn Rand to tell us how to get out. The answer is it must all die before there’s rebirth. That was her final answer and that frightens me, as she has gotten so much of their moral motivation and direction correct.
We either become monsters to defeat the monster, or we must wait until the monster eats everything, including itself. There’s no stopping this train as it is right now.
I think the most unfortunate thing I took away from it was that the lights of New York City will have to go out before it turns. I found myself begging Ayn Rand to tell us how to get out. The answer is it must all die before there’s rebirth. That was her final answer and that frightens me, as she has gotten so much of their moral motivation and direction correct.
We either become monsters to defeat the monster, or we must wait until the monster eats everything, including itself. There’s no stopping this train as it is right now.
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Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:59 pm to Mohican
Ayn Rand, Ron Paul.
The only two public figures in my entire life I idolized.
The only two public figures in my entire life I idolized.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:07 pm to Mohican
A lot of folks are searching frantically for Galt's Gulch these days.
Maybe it's in Texas.
Maybe it's in Texas.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:13 pm to Douglas Quaid
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A lot of folks are searching frantically for Galt's Gulch these days.
Very true it’s happening on this board right now.
There’s something about mountains that seems important. Glacier-fed green valleys in between tall impenetrable mountains.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:16 pm to Mohican
Rand was brilliant.
I agree with her on so much outside of being an atheist.
She was a prophet as an author and,although, many of her philosophical takes are hard for some to handle, I agree with her on 98%.
I agree with her on so much outside of being an atheist.
She was a prophet as an author and,although, many of her philosophical takes are hard for some to handle, I agree with her on 98%.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:24 pm to Mohican
I knew Atlas was an important book when I first laid eyes on a copy in an Oakland bookstore 33 years ago. It wasn't a great book in the sense that, say, the Iliad is. But it's an important one. It could have been a much better read (sorry, Ayn, but you don't need a 100 page lecture to tell a story), but bottom line, Rand was right about this much: until we're willing to set our proverbial oil fields on fire and make them start from scratch, then nothing will probably change.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:31 pm to Mohican
“I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.”
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:33 pm to Peinovich Enoch
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Libertarianism and its consequences have been a disaster to right wing political solidarity.
Mitt Romney, John McCain, and George Bush have been a disaster for right wing solidarity. The most conservative member of today's congress would've been tarred and feathered 200 years ago.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:35 pm to Peinovich Enoch
Rand is not a Libertarian.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:37 pm to Peinovich Enoch
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Peinovich Eunuch
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:38 pm to Mohican
quote:Just gave my kid my hardback edition of Atlas Shrugged on Sunday.
pass them on to your children once they are old enough.
It’s time to understand the concepts and be prepared to seek John Galt.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:47 pm to Peinovich Enoch
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Selfish arse quote. My life is NOT my own. I have responsibility for my people, my culture, my society
I agree on the responsibility. And we cracka's ARE going to have to start hanging together, or hang separately. But if you start off here with "Individual freedom sucks, ban it", then you may as well try seeding crops in a waterless desert. Because the one thing that has defined we palefaces from the very beginnings of our people has been our love of freedom for ourselves. Everyone from ancient Greeks to Germanic barbarians prized it so highly that they waged war for it.
Would you reply to "Hand over your guns" with Molon Labe, or "Gee, let me go ask my Oberführer "?
Posted on 4/20/21 at 9:52 pm to Peinovich Enoch
Registered today I see lol
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:33 pm to Mohican
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... and we are there. We are living it alongside 1984 and Brave New World. We are living all of them. I implore you to read them all and then pass them on to your children once they are old enough
While true in large...
Reality is by locality, mine is tending to two infirm dear loved ones. Nothing government that has put in place has stopped my caring pleas to tend to them.
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:55 pm to Mohican
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We either become monsters to defeat the monster, or we must wait until the monster eats everything, including itself. There’s no stopping this train as it is right now.
There's at least two other ways.
1. If an outside enemy (China or Russia for example) brutally attacks us on American soil, say New York City, that will give us all a common enemy to hate instead of each other.
2. An act of God. Tsunami flooding on the east coast. Volcanic activity and massive forest fires out west.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:10 am to Mohican
Wasn’t she involved with a Rothschild at one time? Maybe she got the idea for the book from that relationship? Great book. The movie came out around 2011 I think. They had it in the one movie theatre on O’Neil Lane for 2 weeks. It was a full theatre when I went.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 12:14 am to DesScorp
Agreed. I love the book and think the first 300-400 pages are brilliant and should be required reading. Everything through her building the railroad and then taking the trip through Minnesota (I think) and talking with the banker in the desolate town who just wanted to help everyone by making loans to his customers they couldn’t afford. I read it right during the Lehman collapse and it was so on point.
But whew, the last 300 pages or so of that book with the 80 page lectures is pretty rough if I’m being honest. You had me convinced 400 pages ago, Ayn.
But whew, the last 300 pages or so of that book with the 80 page lectures is pretty rough if I’m being honest. You had me convinced 400 pages ago, Ayn.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 5:02 am to ned nederlander
I read the story about Kroger closing two stores in southern cali because the town had passed some covid tax wage increase on business. The mayor then said he is looking into sueing Kroger for closing the stores.
That was the epitome of Atlas Shrugged, kill a business with taxes then sue them for closing.
That was the epitome of Atlas Shrugged, kill a business with taxes then sue them for closing.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 6:00 am to Mohican
Now read The Fountainhead, with the frame of mind of what our mainstream media has become.
Posted on 4/21/21 at 6:09 am to Mohican
Now read The Progressive Era by Rothbard
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