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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:03 am to Enadious
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:03 am to Enadious
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seeing with your own eyes a UFO making impossible movements in the sky evidence?
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No, it's only evidence of a craft capable of making such maneuvers. You are assuming they are alien. You have ZERO proof of that. People believe what they want to believe.
Meh, if the UFO is doing things in the sky that Science says are impossible for aircrafts to do then it is safe to assume it isn't one of ours.
In fact, if you saw a UFO do things that Science says are impossible for aircrafts to do then you are not believing what you don't want to believe.
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:05 am to Enadious
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nd, I've seen UFOs in the day. Can't explain what they were, but no proof they were alien.
What did you see?
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:06 am to DawgfaninCa
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, if the UFO is doing things in the sky that Science says are impossible for aircrafts to do then it is safe to assume it isn't one of ours.
In fact, if you saw a UFO do things that Science says are impossible for aircrafts to do then you are not believing what you don't want to believe.
I once knew an engineer in St, Louis who was a firm believer in UFOs - he had seen one himself and described it in great detail.
He was not a wild-eyed conspiracy type guy, rather a straight up sane engineer type right out of central casting. His 'testimony' made me think twice about my own predilection of discounting all other such 'sightings.'
I still don't believe they exists, but am willing to listen.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 11:07 am
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:15 am to ChineseBandit58
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I once knew an engineer in St, Louis who was a firm believer in UFOs - he had seen one himself and described it in great detail.
He was not a wild-eyed conspiracy type guy, rather a straight up sane engineer type right out of central casting. His 'testimony' made me think twice about my own predilection of discounting all other such 'sightings.'
I still don't believe they exists, but am willing to listen.
That's being a reasonable skeptic and having an open mind to the possibility that they might exist.
Skeptics and scientists who think there couldn't be more intelligent beings than humans existing in the universe are just biased close-minded unreasonable pseudo-scientists.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:26 am to DawgfaninCa
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Skeptics and scientists who think there couldn't be more intelligent beings than humans existing in the universe are just biased close-minded unreasonable pseudo-scientists.
No, they understand science better than you do. You apparently have no grasp on the vast distances between the stars or the craft or energy it would take to cross them. We are talking energy equivalent to the big bang to 'warp' space (as if anythng could survive that). Do some real science reading and your eyes will open how Star Trek and the lot will always remain fantasy. We will never reach another star, and no being has ever traveled from another star to Earth. There are no new elements to be discovered. There will never be 'dilithem crystals' to power a 'starship.'
So if there are more intelligent beings in the universe, we'll never know. Period. Unless we get some kind of 'radio wave' from their distance past. There will never be a face to face meeting.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:28 am to DawgfaninCa
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What did you see?
A 'string of pearls' daylight sighting involving 3 disks. They were high in the sky, lasted a long time, and didn't move particularly fast or make any maneuvers.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:32 am to Enadious
Sounds like balloons.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:33 am to DawgfaninCa
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I'm asking him if he would consider seeing a UFO making impossible movements in the sky evidence.
Eyewitness testimony is notoriously bad. That you pretend to not know this and ignore all logic is your fundamental problem.
I mean come the frick on with your answer regarding why these sighting aren't suddenly making cell phone video all over the world. Pahleez.
HD video shows up and is in almost everyone's pocket(and hell, usually in their hands), suddenly, no one can get a picture.
Of, if they do manage to get a pic or video, it looks like the goddamned Zapruder film.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:35 am to DawgfaninCa
quote:Well, um, if I saw that, I'd probably video it.
In fact, if you saw a UFO do things that Science says are impossible for aircrafts to do then you are not believing what you don't want to believe.
But, I would also at least consider that my perception of what a craft at several thousand feet is doing could be skewed.
Human vision isn't really all that exceptional. Especially in terms of spatial awareness where the visual cues are difficult to ascertain or non-existent.(Ya know, like in the sky)
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:36 am to Enadious
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We will never reach another star, and no being has ever traveled from another star to Earth.
Do you just wake up every morning wondering how you can depress people?
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:37 am to Enadious
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A 'string of pearls' daylight sighting involving 3 disks. They were high in the sky, lasted a long time, and didn't move particularly fast or make any maneuvers.
That's not the kind of UFO sightings I am talking about. They didn't do anything impossible to do based on our present scientific knowledge.
BTW, if the objects were high in the sky then how did you know they were disc shaped?
I'm talking about UFO sightings where the UFO makes impossible aerial movements like stopping on a dime or doing an instantaneous 180 degree reversal of direction.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:39 am to Junky
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We will never reach another star, and no being has ever traveled from another star to Earth.
Do you just wake up every morning wondering how you can depress people?
Yeah. I don't think it's a legit assertion to say "we will never reach another star".
I mean, it's not wrong necessarily. It's just not definitively correct either.
Our science is very much in it's infancy.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:40 am to DawgfaninCa
quote:Have you seen this?
I'm talking about UFO sightings where the UFO makes impossible aerial movements like stopping on a dime or doing an instantaneous 180 degree reversal of direction.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:49 am to ShortyRob
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In fact, if you saw a UFO do things that Science says are impossible for aircrafts to do then you are not believing what you don't want to believe.
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Well, um, if I saw that, I'd probably video it.
Many eyewitnesses have done that.
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But, I would also at least consider that my perception of what a craft at several thousand feet is doing could be skewed.
I didn't say the UFO was always several thousand feet in the sky.
What if it was 2 PM, a clear day and the UFO was a few thousand feet in the sky then it quickly came down to only 500 feet above you, stopped on a dime and hovered silently for 15 seconds before slowly moving away revealing a 2nd identical UFO where the first one had just been?
Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:56 am to DawgfaninCa
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Well, um, if I saw that, I'd probably video it.
Many eyewitnesses have done that.
Lol
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:00 pm to DawgfaninCa
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I didn't say the UFO was always several thousand feet in the sky
Absent knowledge of the size of a craft, humans are literally incapable of discerning altitude visually if it's even a thousand get away. If it's several thousand feet away, the human estimate of altitude is little better than a guess.
And again. Where's the GOOD video. GOOD video.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:02 pm to ShortyRob
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Well, um, if I saw that, I'd probably video it.
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Many eyewitnesses have done that.
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Lol
Ah, the usual ridiculing laugh of a biased close-minded skeptic who knows everything about what exists in the universe.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:02 pm to ShortyRob
The north Koreans fired a fricking rocket that landed in the damned ocean and MULTIPLE security cameras in Japan caught it at the same time.
If these things are as common as sightings suggest, we should have hundreds if not thousands of videos of them at this point.
If these things are as common as sightings suggest, we should have hundreds if not thousands of videos of them at this point.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:04 pm to DawgfaninCa
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Ah, the usual ridiculing laugh of a biased close-minded skeptic who knows everything about what exists in the universe.
I laughed because you intentionally skipped part of my post in your reply.
I don't know shite about what exists in the universe.
But. I do know logic.
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:09 pm to DawgfaninCa
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UFO sightings haven't gone down
Sure they have
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everyone isn't always carrying a handheld video camera on their person
In this day and age, almost everyone has a cell phone with a camera.
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what the witnesses claim they saw.
Which weren't UFOs in the sense that they weren't space aliens.
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