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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:56 pm to
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wish both you and CoachDon were with my brother and me when we had our first definitive sighting so you wouldn't have to believe us but know for certain that sea serpents exist and my brother and I saw a sea serpent from only 20 yards away.

Sea Serpent that is so not shy of humans that he approaches within 20 yards.

Lives in a world where every other person has an HD camera in their pocket.

Never been photographed by anyone not using something that makes the Zapruder film look like HD porn.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:05 pm to
See this is the thing.


If UFOs and shite were real, we'd know from legit noncrazies. Leaking isn't anything new. It's been over 70 years.



It's time to stop pretending. The universe is so large and the time so short that as a species we're going to live and die alone on this pale blue dot.

Just like the majority of species out there will most likely die by themselves on their respective pale dots.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23224 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:38 pm to
Do you think there's a chance you saw a giant oarfish?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 4:47 pm to
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I wish both you and CoachDon were with my brother and me when we had our first definitive sighting so you wouldn't have to believe us but know for certain that sea serpents exist and my brother and I saw a sea serpent from only 20 yards away.


The oceans are huge and there are many unexplained mysteries in this world. I absolutely have no difficulty believing this kind of creature could exist.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49532 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 5:06 pm to
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Here's a video about them.

Looks like natural strata to me.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49532 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 5:09 pm to
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I'm still waiting for someone to explain how ancient people made these holes in stone using only the primitive tools and technology that were available to them at the time.

Now those are some interesting artifacts -
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49532 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 5:11 pm to
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Here's more photos of part of the ruins at Gobeki Tepe which is over 12,000 years old

The Gobleki Tepe ruins are really head-scratching stuff for me. I just heard of them a couple of years ago. Cannot reconcile how/why/who it was done.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:13 pm to
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Do you think there's a chance you saw a giant oarfish?


Absolutely no chance it was an oarfish.

What my brother and I both described seeing from only 20 yards away looked nothing like an oarfish and I described some of the differences between the animal we saw and an oarfish in several threads and on our blog.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:34 pm to
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wish both you and CoachDon were with my brother and me when we had our first definitive sighting so you wouldn't have to believe us but know for certain that sea serpents exist and my brother and I saw a sea serpent from only 20 yards away.


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Sea Serpent that is so not shy of humans that he approaches within 20 yards.


Meh, the sea serpent didn't seem to notice us sitting in our car only 20 yards away from it because it was too busy chasing a sea lion. The sea serpent didn't realize the sea lion swam over a submerged rocky ledge that was covered by 3 feet of water. When the sea serpent followed the sea lion from 40 feet of water to 3 feet of water, the sea serpent hit one of the submerged rocks and got stuck on the submerged rocky ledge while the sea lion swam about 100 yards away then crawled up on shore to safety.

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Lives in a world where every other person has an HD camera in their pocket.


A person has to be lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time of day and looking in the right direction in order to have a chance of photographing the sea serpent.

Besides, almost all of our sightings have been right around dawn when there are hardly any people or boats in the area.

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Never been photographed by anyone not using something that makes the Zapruder film look like HD porn.


Meh, all of our 3 videos contain enough data that is in focus that an unbiased eye can examine closely and determine the videos shows several large unknown serpentine marine animals.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62079 posts
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:42 pm to
Serious question Dawg? Have you ever approached the people at Coast to Coast AM. MAybe they'd like you and your brother as guests?
Plus, after seeing that picture you posted of the cave drawing that looked like it showed a dinosaur with humans, I googled the topic and found there are many more. Interesting stuff.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:55 am to
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Serious question Dawg? Have you ever approached the people at Coast to Coast AM. MAybe they'd like you and your brother as guests?


On December 12, 2000, I did speak for a few minutes on Coast to Coast AM about our sighting. The subject was sea serpents and the guest host was asking for people who have seen one to call up and talk about it.

I probably would be willing to talk some more about our sightings if I was invited but I am not interested in giving any skeptics and debunkers free air time so they can insult my brother and me.

However, I would rather have a private lecture where my brother and I can discuss our sightings and videos in detail then show all of the videos while pointing out where large segments of several sea serpents can be seen in them.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:05 am to
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Meh, the sea serpent didn't seem to notice us sitting in our car only 20 yards away from it because it was too busy chasing a sea lion


Sea Lions. Reside near the shore.

So.

Sea Serpent that apparently enjoys a critter that humans watch all the time and said sea serpent is so unconcerned that it doesn't take time to notice humans there..........never ever photographed by something that doesn't look like the Zapruder film.

There's really no saving you from this reality.

I don't doubt you believe you saw it. Eyewitness testimony is very well researched as being highly unreliable even in cases where the witness feels certain.

But, facts overwhelm your eyewitness testimony.
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Besides, almost all of our sightings have been right around dawn when there are hardly any people or boats in the area.
The fact you claim more than one sighting actually harms your point further.

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Meh, all of our 3 videos contain enough data that is in focus that an unbiased eye can examine closely and determine the videos shows several large unknown serpentine marine animals.
Dude. I've seen your videos.

I can't see shite. If you plan to try another sighting, use a decent fricking camera.

Oh, and ya know, you probably ought to have figured that reality out after your first crappy video.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:06 am to
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Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup by DawgfaninCaquote:Serious question Dawg? Have you ever approached the people at Coast to Coast AM. MAybe they'd like you and your brother as guests? On December 12, 2000, I did speak for a few minutes on Coast to Coast AM about our sighting. The subject was sea serpents and the guest host was asking for people who have seen one to call up and talk about it. I probably would be willing to talk some more about our sightings if I was invited but I am not interested in giving any skeptics and debunkers free air time so they can insult my brother and me.


Skeptics SHOULD rebuke you.

You seem wholly unaware that eyewitness testimony is unreliable

and

You are flat out completely unaware of probability.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:14 am to
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You are flat out completely unaware of probability.
Probability is good that we are dumbed-down, ignorant human beings unaware of all that exists both on this planet and others.

As to the OP, I agree with those who suggest that the UFOs we see are probably government/military made.

I'm not sure why a being so advanced that it could travel through the galaxies, would bother with our primitive planet.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:34 am to
Here's an article about a bracelet supposedly 70,000 years old that was made with technology that should not have been known at the time.





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What is believed to be the world oldest bracelet—at around 70,000 years old—is hailed as a history changer by countless experts. The bracelet discovered in 2008 in the Denisova cave in Siberia has been analyzed by experts who have concluded it was crafted some 70,000 years ago, leading to the conclusion that our ancestors were much more sophisticated than we’ve ever imagined.


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Experts are convinced that the bracelet is already the OLDEST piece of man-made jewelry of its kind, created by an extinct species of ‘early humans.’

The now-extinct species is thought to be closely related to Homo sapiens and Neanderthals.

Experts are still researching the artifact, but if confirmed, it would push back the date of the bracelet’s creation by at least 30,000 years, proving that our ancestors had access to ‘sophisticated’ technology much earlier than we thought.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 9:38 am
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:36 am to
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As to the OP, I agree with those who suggest that the UFOs we see are probably government/military made.


Major Gordon Cooper

One of the original Mercury Astronauts and the last American to fly in space alone. On May 15, 1963 he shot into space in a Mercury capsule for a 22 orbit journey around the world. During the final orbit, Major Gordon Cooper told the tracking station at Muchea (near Perth Australia) that he could see a glowing, greenish object ahead of him quickly approaching his capsule. The UFO was real and solid, because it was picked up by Muchea's tracking radar. Cooper's sighting was reported by the National Broadcast Company, which was covering the flight step by step; but when Cooper landed, reporters were told that they would not be allowed to question him about the UFO sighting.

Major Cooper was a firm believer in UFOs. Ten years earlier, in 1951 he had sighted a UFO while piloting an F-86 Sabrejet over Western Germany. They were metallic, saucer-shaped discs at considerable altitude and could out-maneuver all American fighter planes. Major Cooper also testified before the United Nations: "I believe that these extra-terrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets... Most astronauts were reluctant to discuss UFOs." "I did have occasion in 1951 to have two days of observation of many flights of them, of different sizes, flying in fighter formation, generally from east to west over Europe."

And according to a taped interview by J. L. Ferrando, Major Cooper said: "For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists in astronautics. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us. And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public. Why? Because authority is afraid that people may think of God knows what kind of horrible invaders. So the password still is: We have to avoid panic by all means."

"I was furthermore a witness to an extraordinary phenomenon, here on this planet Earth. It happened a few months ago in Florida. There I saw with my own eyes a defined area of ground being consumed by flames, with four indentions left by a flying object which had descended in the middle of a field. Beings had left the craft (there were other traces to prove this). They seemed to have studied topography, they had collected soil samples and, eventually, they returned to where they had come from, disappearing at enormous speed... I happen to know that authority did just about everything to keep this incident from the press and TV, in fear of a panicky reaction from the public."
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:37 am to
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As to the OP, I agree with those who suggest that the UFOs we see are probably government/military made.


Donald Slayton

Donald Slayton, a Mercury astronaut, revealed in an interview he had seen UFOs in 1951: "I was testing a P-51 fighter in Minneapolis when I spotted this object. I was at about 10,000 feet on a nice, bright, sunny afternoon. I thought the object was a kite, then I realized that no kite is gonna fly that high." As I got closer it looked like a weather balloon, grey and about three feet in diameter. But as soon as I got behind the darn thing it didn't look like a balloon anymore. It looked like a saucer, a disk. About the same time, I realized that it was suddenly going away from me - and there I was, running at about 300 miles per hour. I tracked it for a little way, and then all of a sudden the damn thing just took off. It pulled about a 45 degree climbing turn and accelerated and just flat disappeared."
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:37 am to
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As to the OP, I agree with those who suggest that the UFOs we see are probably government/military made.


Robert White

On July 17, 1962 Major Robert White reported a UFO during his fifty-eight-mile high flight of an X-15. Major White reported: "I have no idea what it could be. It was grayish in color and about thrity to forty feet away."
Then according to a Time Magazine article, Major White exclaimed over the radio: "There ARE things out there! There absolutely is!"
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:38 am to

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As to the OP, I agree with those who suggest that the UFOs we see are probably government/military made.


Joseph A. Walker

On May 11, 1962 NASA pilot Joseph Walker said that one of his tasks was to detect UFOs during his X-15 flights. He had filmed five or six UFOs during his record breaking fifty-mile-high flight in April, 1962. It was the second time he had filmed UFOs in flight. During a lecture at the Second National Conference on the Peaceful Uses of Space Research in Seattle, Washigton he said: "I don't feel like speculating about them. All I know is what appeared on the film which was developed after the flight." - Joseph Walker To date none of those films has been released to the public for viewing.


Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 9:39 am to




James Lovell and Frank Borman



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As to the OP, I agree with those who suggest that the UFOs we see are probably government/military made.


In December 1965, Gemini astronauts James Lovell and Frank Borman also saw a UFO during their second orbit of their record-breaking 14 day flight. Borman reported that he saw an unidentified spacecraft some distance from their capsule. Gemini Control, at Cape Kennedy told him that he was seeing the final stage of their own Titan booster rocket. Borman confirmed that he could see the booster rocket all right, but that he could also see something completely different.


During James Lovell's flight on Gemini 7:

Lovell: BOGEY AT 10 O'CLOCK HIGH.

Capcom: This is Houston. Say again 7.
Lovell: SAID WE HAVE A BOGEY AT 10 O'CLOCK HIGH.

Capcom: Gemini 7, is that the booster or is that an actual sighting?
Lovell: WE HAVE SEVERAL...ACTUAL SIGHTING.

Capcom: ...Estimated distance or size?
Lovell: WE ALSO HAVE THE BOOSTER IN SIGHT...
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