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re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:03 am to
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:03 am to
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the answer is in the bible....genesis 6....use your head and think


I also agree with this

eta - we also get a pretty good answer in Ecclesiastes 1:9

This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 10:04 am
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:04 am to
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there is absolutely evidence of it, and the evidence is substantial



Linky?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:04 am to
I'm not sure nuclear war caused the reset, but I definitely know the meltdown at the end of the last ice age had a lot to do with it. I definitely agree that there were advanced civilizations long before Sumer, and that Sumeria didn't spring up overnight, civilization evacuated there from the areas further south which were inundated by the Persian Gulf. The end of the last ice age saw 200 miles worth of coastline swallowed by the ocean. The Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Baltic Sea, Red Sea, Persian Gulf, etc were all likely inhabited river/valleys. Today, around 80% of the world's population, and most of its major cities lie within 200 miles of the coast. Of course a flood of that magnitude, which would have been incredibly sudden in those river valleys, could have collapsed and reset much of advanced civilization at the time. It would then make sense for the survivors to go inland and bring "civilization" to the surviving tribes, and be worshiped as deities due to their advanced knowledge.
Posted by burdhead
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:08 am to
tip of the hat to you ,brother!....all done before and is being done again
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:09 am to
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there is absolutely evidence of it, and the evidence is substantial

Robert Oppenheimer, when asked if we had witnessed the 1st nuclear blast on planet earth answered, “Well, yes, in modern times.”


shocked quartz, typically the product of nuclear explosions, is evident in man-made structures both at Mohinjo Daro in India and at what are believed to be ancient fortresses in Scotland. There is evidence for a massive ancient radioactive explosion in Africa.

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Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:13 am to
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Linky?


sure, but most of this is from "unconventional" sites

this is turning into an OT thread...

the best evidence is the city found in India with radiation levels close to what we see in Hiroshima...

I will post one quote from the Mahabharata (might wanna google this on it's own - that ancient text actually has a flight manual and a drawing for how to build an aircraft)

quote:

...a single projectile charged with all the power of the Universe. An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendor… An iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas…. the corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. The hair and nails fell out; pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds turned white…. after a few hours all foodstuffs were infected…. to escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves in streams to wash themselves and their equipment.


happy reading

eta - also google "green glass sheets found in desert"
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 10:14 am
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:15 am to
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sure, but most of this is from "unconventional" sites


That's fine. Don't get me wrong, I'm rather skeptical of your point of view (Occam's Razor and all that jazz), but I'll at least give it consideration.

Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:27 am to
Could these things have be caused by a massive meteorite impact?
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 10:31 am
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:28 am to
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infiniteness of space and time
Ultimately meaningless concepts.

For example, all probability, no matter how miniscule, becomes absolute certainly in the scope of infinity, and that includes the possibility of aliens as well as encountering them.

The question is, do we really want to?
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:33 am to
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That's fine. Don't get me wrong, I'm rather skeptical of your point of view (Occam's Razor and all that jazz), but I'll at least give it consideration.


fair enough

here are a couple of things I do KNOW:

* none of this matters insofar as my personal life is concerned

* none of this can really be proven or disproved

outside of that, it is really interesting

this website is super interesting (if you can get past the "crazy" religious stuff - LINK

especially the stuff on ancient technology

disclaimer - I AM NOT saying I agree with everything, or even most of the stuff on that site - I found that site about a decade ago as I was looking up stuff on OOPARTS (that is another term worth a google - Out of Place Artifacts)

much like the History channel show Ancient Aliens - the author of that site does a great job of laying out weird evidence and he makes a good case for hi tech in antiquity

the stuff I find most believable is that mankind had traversed the globe in antiquity & that we had flying machines (Israeli artifacts found in the Americas, cocoa found in the stomachs of Egyptian mummies, glider airplane found in Egyptian pyramid, and more...)
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:35 am to
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Could these things have be caused by a massive meteorite impact?


sure, I guess

but it does not seem likely - the quotes from the ancient Indian texts are pretty stunning though

it is worth noting that "barbarians" burned many of the great libraries of the Western world, most notably, Alexandria...
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:38 am to
I mean-there are a lot of big craters around the globe. A meteorite could certainly be called a "projectile." Look at the Tunguska Event. Fortunately that didn't happen over a populated area.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:38 am to
You said humankind reset themselves though. If there was an ancient civilization it just simply was not human.

instead of a quote of philosophical texts from "Mahabharata" regarding a manual to fly a chariot/palace driven by the mind, maybe first try a basic level of understanding of genetics/evolution.

There is basically no way there were humans like us, they became so advanced and wiped themselves out, and then re-evolved back to humans from the same or even similar common ancestor.

If they had real instructions for these mind driven flying crafts how on Earth did they get wiped out? They just decided to stay in the one area with nuclear war? They can drive mind driven aircrafts but are still messing around with atomic bombs?
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:41 am to
So, we are either being visited by non-human intelligences, or we aren't...I don't think it's a thing you pit belief into...

The answer is yes, 100%. I've seen too much evidence.

However, as kingbob said, many sightings are just our equipment.


Unfortunately these non-human intelligences may not be "aliens" as prescribed.
So if and when it becomes public, retreat to the family camp and avoid big cities...and definitely stay off their ships.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:46 am to
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Maybe I watch too much History Channel but I'm starting to come around.

OI watch a lot of History Channel too (at least I did before the axed the H2 channel)

But I always avoided the Area 51 topic with deliberate non-interest.

I just watched the military channel program on 'conspiracies' because it was about the moon landings and the Russian space failures. I knew one of my old buddies would be featured in the Russian conspiracy portion = James Oberg. He was in my working group for a few months back in the early 80s - was considered a "russian space expert' even then. He has a lot of interesting information on how the Russians suffered many failures and controlled the narrative to show success.

I could not believe any channel would devote any time at all to 'the Moon Landings were FAKE" - but they did.

edit - I do give some credence to some of the "ancient alien" assertions. But not the Roswell incident.
This post was edited on 7/13/17 at 10:49 am
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:53 am to
You mean the document that has "Likely Hoaxed" right next to it?
Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:54 am to
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You said humankind reset themselves though. If there was an ancient civilization it just simply was not human.

instead of a quote of philosophical texts from "Mahabharata" regarding a manual to fly a chariot/palace driven by the mind, maybe first try a basic level of understanding of genetics/evolution.

There is basically no way there were humans like us, they became so advanced and wiped themselves out, and then re-evolved back to humans from the same or even similar common ancestor.

If they had real instructions for these mind driven flying crafts how on Earth did they get wiped out? They just decided to stay in the one area with nuclear war? They can drive mind driven aircrafts but are still messing around with atomic bombs?


I never said "re-evolved"

those aircrafts mentioned referenced mercury as a fuel, not mind control

it is not entirely unfeasible that mankind advanced & had a catastrophic event (war, meteor strike, great deluge, whatever) that wiped out advancements & that we had to start over

and again, I know many will think it is crazy, but I believe that God created mankind in his own image & that after the great sin of Adam, we started DEVOLVING - we only use 10% of our brains - right?

anyway, I don't care if you think this is all stupid, does not affect my life

and again, I don't know if any of my theory is true - just fun to think about & the evidence & findings are absolutely interesting
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:55 am to
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So much official documentation from CIA, FBI, etc. have been released discussing it all there really is no logical way to deny the coverup anymore.

Combine this with THOUSANDS of people who have worked in the programs coming out and discussing what they did....it is remarkable. There is more than enough corroborating FIRST HAND testimony that any court would grant a death sentence if it were a murder trial but that isn't good enough once the media claims you are a kook.




Good point. If it were to come out then 100s of millions of people's religious beliefs would be called into question.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 10:57 am to
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The question is, do we really want to?


Posted by dcbl
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Posted on 7/13/17 at 11:01 am to
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Good point. If it were to come out then 100s of millions of people's religious beliefs would be called into question.


* billions

anyway - the Catholic Church has recently released statements that opened the door to the possibility of extra terrestrial life

the "official"??? Catholic position on ET (I am not Catholic)

quote:

To insist there must be intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is to overstate the case. It's also theologically irrelevant because the central tenets of Christianity remain intact with or without little green men.


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